Hey Folks,
I see a lot of posts by people looking for help with the raids. My clan and I do this but this post isn't about that. It's about what you can do to maximize your chance of getting the help you want. I see a lot of posts asking for help and people complaining about their inability to get help for raids.
The following is a list of things to keep in mind or actually do. No particular order, just apply them to your situation as you see fit.
1- The best way to ensure you can raid is to ...dun dun dun...Join a Clan. I know many of you don't want to or think clans are a joke or elitist pigs who wont except you. Whatever your view on clans this is the best place to find help with any D2 activities. And if you put just a bit of time into researching the clans you can find one that suits you, both your needs and you as a person/individual. If the first clan you join isn't what you're looking for just leave and look for another. Or better yet. Go to the forums. Explain yourself and the kind of person you are and see if there's others like you who might want to join up and start your own group. This is exactly how my clan started. And I am an anxious person so understand some peoples reluctance to put themselves out there, but just like real life, its got to be done sometimes to achieve goals.
But you still don't want to join a clan... No Probs.
2. Make sure you have /are grinding those milestones and leveling up. Being at a realistic lvl is important when asking for help. There is nothing anyone can do for a 300 light guardian wanting to run Spire of Stars. You need to be at least in the region of the recommended light for the activity you want to run.
3. Watch videos before asking for help. The only people running raids blind are those in there on day one or who have agreed with their team to wait and go in blind at a later date. If you expect someone to help you, the least you can do is watch a video or two so you actually have some clue of what they mean when they say something. Not only is this kind of the right thing to do, it also helps the overall run because you aren't completely clueless from the start.
4. Make or respond to forum posts asking for /looking for help. Be honest about your knowledge. Tell us you have watched some videos. Make it clear you want the help but aren't completely helpless. Be positive and if you've been waiting a while to do something say, but don't whine about finding a group. Its very off putting to read some of the post asking for help at times. Yes you need help, yes you may have been looking for it for a long time...there's probably a reason YOU are still looking while others have found their help, if you are regularly asking for help.
5. Once you make the post make sure others can view your b.net profile and see your characters. Often we check your profile before responding to make sure you have at least one character high enough to do the raid...and no we don't expect to see max lvl, just a reasonable one. You would be surprised how many folks try to pull a fast one here and come in under level expecting a straight up carry.
6. HAVE A WORKING MIC. While it is possible to get through a raid without one and there are many groups (even deaf and mute clans) that do so regularly. its just not the most practical way. And no sherpa likes the idea of taking hours and hours to do something that could be done and dusted in 50 minutes because we can't tell if you understand what we tell you what needs doing, then we find out you don't as we wipe. Plus it makes you asking a question just a little bit easier.
If you do all i have said above (minus the clan bit) you are telling the people who may help you that...You are willing to do the work needed to be ready and by watching a video are trying to preemptively be the best teammate you can be. This tells us you are someone whos going to put the effort in and probably be someone we can get through on the first try with little mishap. You are telling us you are someone looking for help not a carry. We will usually prioritize someone like you.
AND PLEASE REMEMBER, when you do find help that sometimes people are assholes. Don't let one bed experience with a group put you off. I had some bad experiences with "sherpas" myself who expect you to be perfect and not mess up at all. If you get one of these people just leave the raid and look for another group. No clear is worth the grief of someone else's ego and there are lots of good folks out there willing to help.
**EDIT** Theres been some suggestions for additional points. Atm i think they apply more once you are able to find a group to help and are in the raid. So try to keep in mind...
-Have the time to raid! Dont join up if you got to go do something else in 30 mins. Even with a good group of sherpas you should have alotted at least 2 or more hours for even the short lair run. If youre looking at your first calus...plan on being at it for several hours straight. Even experienced teams hit glitchy runs or just have a rough time of it and can spend a whole evening not clearing. With inexperienced folks in the team theres more potential for it to happen.
- understand people are going to tell you what to do. And we are also going to tell you what you did wrong. Its not to blame you. Its so you know what not to do next try. Its so we can let you know the best way we know of to do something. Some of us talk all sweet like, some of us talk in more blunt manner. You have to just get on with it and listen. But remember what i said about assholes. Know the difference between straight talk and someone being a twat. Dont ever let anyone just be bossing you about like theyre someone special!
-dont eat your cheetos on mic. Yeah we can all hear it and its annoying as hell.
Lots of folks are about to be looking for help as Y1 draws to an end. There are lots of people out there happy to help. How you approach it will often have a massive impact on your success, not only in finding help but also the actual activity itself. I hope this helps a few of you to find the help your're needing, and I hope your Destiny adventure continues to be worth the grind.
Chris aka toktheyounger
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Yeah my first time I just put that in the title and had 5 people join up to help
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One more massive tip. Don't lie. At all. Don't lie about completions, experience, or anything, don't lie about shit because if you do try and pretend you know what you're doing and then start messing up raid report doesn't lie and that is not a very good way to make friends.
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Great tips As someone who has been interested in doing the Raid before Forsaken releases thank you for the tips. I would agree watching a raid video to get an idea seems like a great way to get caught up to speed with the Guardians who run it often!
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Stop wasting your time and get a Real Job skill.
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7 RepliesWatching a tutorial video is a MUST. It gives you the idea on what needs done & how it’s ran. Some teams will change it up possibly but least they are only telling you the differences that they do & not the whole raid itself It even slashed down the time taken to complete one as you already have an idea ahead of doing it
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3 RepliesHow to LFG raid in D2: 1. Must have emblem, 25 solo clears, Twitch channel with minimum 100 followers and Jelly-horn 2. Capable of handling obscene amounts of blatant racist remarks, crunching Cheetos in mic and constant talk of getting high “all the time” 3. Be able to carry the very group you were asking help from because in all actuality they have no clue what they are doing 4. Always be ready to be kicked at the final encounter to make room for their buddy (sarcasm , but not really but sort of)
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3 RepliesEdited by ETERNAL: 7/19/2018 7:45:12 PMI jumped into a base Leviathan guided game last night and had a very good first D2 Raid experience. I had little/no knowledge of the environment or mechanics but the two lead guardians were patient and it turned out to be incredibly fun. My favorite part of the Raid on initial impression was the DOGS part. Sneaking around reminded me of the VOG Gorgon's Labyrinth. We did not finish (one of the leaders and myself had to leave after trying Calus a few times) but I am excited to get back in there. Just wanted to get the Triumphs done but after a heavy PVP year 1 I do miss the Raid challenges. Beats the heck out of Heroic strikes.
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2 RepliesAll good stuff, now if the d2 raids yielded anything worth getting or even fun...
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To the Sherpas - make sure you know what you are doing also. I've run into a couple of God awful lfg groups that asked for people with experience only to find out they have no clue what they are doing
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2 RepliesEdited by Veilfire07: 7/19/2018 7:46:05 PMThis needs to be at the top of the forums until every single person has seen it. I am a clan leader myself, I do my best to help people through the raids. As a sherpa I have had bad experiences with impatient players who want to get it done in the first two tries or simply quit. The problem is when one quits, it takes quite a bit of effort to get another in, explain everything that's going on and then continue the raid. Thank you for this. Helpful tips to everyone involved :)
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Edited by TheShadow-cali: 7/20/2018 4:23:03 PMWhen Bungie starts creating raids that are worth a gamers time spent in their game like D1, is when I will consider running them. As of right now, the raid is nothing but a jump puzzle that didn't really offer anything that is an actual incentive. D1 raids were more noob friendly versus D2 raid. Gamers are not as willing to tach others because of the mechanics. The funny thing about it, Bungie "clammed" D2 raid was more noob friendly lol.
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1 ReplyI would agree with all of the above. My team raided a lot in D1 and we were always happy to take someone along who had never done it before. One of my teammates was pretty much a full-time sherpa during King's Fall and Rise of Iron. As long as you are willing to listen and are not ridiculously under-leveled it wasn't a big deal.
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This is very good advice. I wish I'd had it when D2 started.
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Can confirm all of this is true, having just used this same advice to finally get back into raiding around 3 weeks ago.
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Great post, wish there were more like it around here.
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4 RepliesMics. Are. Cheap. On PS4 any earbuds with a cell phone mic work fine. I have been using the same eight dollar pair for years. There is no excuse for anyone to be playing a sixty dollars game on a three hundred dollar console without a less than ten dollar mic. I have a back up sitting right there on my TV stand if necessary.
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I'm all for this method, but I don't have time to Raid anymore, it sucks. Thanks for the Advice though.
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1 ReplyPlease add be patient and will need more than 30 minutes. Many people quit way to quick.
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10 RepliesGet thicker skin. You definitely need to add that one. Im tired of playing with people who don't know what they are doing, then start bitching when I try to explain what they are doing wrong. If you forced a wipe, you get to hear how to fix the problem...
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3 RepliesWith clans, I would say make sure they aren't running the same 6-8 people through and will play with all people. I had that experience. Also make sure they are in the same timezone or area that would be good for you. [quote]And if you put just a bit of time into researching the clans you can find one that suits you, both your needs and you as a person/individual[/quote] I don't get this. How can you research a clan without actually playing with members really?
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Hey for some reason it won't let me respond to your pm but I forgot I was going to my brothers this weekend so I wont be able to do the raid tonight. Thanks so much for the offer and sorry to waste your time I completely forgot I was going out this weekend. I got with a good clan and was wondering if it's ok if I add you because once I've done the raid a few times I think I'd be a good helper for bringing others threw the raid since it's pretty much always been my favorite thing to do in destiny
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1 ReplyCant stress the honesty part enough. If a bunch of genuinely experienced players ask for anyone wanting to join to have experience, theres no point lying - they'll be able to tell very quickly if you dont know what you're doing. And of course they'll be irritated about you wasting their time. You would be too. At the end of the day, there are plenty of players without clears or experience who want to run these things. Sure, it'll be rough, but with some perserverance you'll learn how to play your part, and then you can join groups who ask for experience instead of clears.
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2 RepliesEdited by bulletw1st: 7/20/2018 4:59:49 AMThere's nothing to get by doing raids. If Bungie had brains they would have not increased the power at all before Forsaken by adding stupid 400 weapons. They would have made it so that the existing raid weapons dropped with a random roll. If they can't do that do nothing. This 400 power increase is a joke. We are all better off farming for vendor materials right now. If you are going after those 400 weapons you are completely wasting your time. If Bungie doesn't actually realize this that's very, very, very funny. They were better off adding Ornaments. At least you might be able to make use of that after Forsaken drops.
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Forgot Don't eat while mic is hot/live/on Or phone calls..
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Biggest thing I suggest to people is to watch a damn tutorial video on the raid mechanics, AND, additionally, to watch an alternate video where you can hear the communication going on between the fireteam members. The tutorial videos will help you understand the mechanics, and the communication videos will help you understand the lingo that might be thrown around - those are the two most important aspects to D2 raids. Take an hour out of your day and watch a video or two. It will ultimately save you (and others) hours of struggling and frustration in the raid itself. If you go in blind, you're most likely going to be wasting everyone's time including your own.
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3 RepliesExcellent post guardian, all good points. It's not that hard to achieve endgame with a little effort. [spoiler]Shame about your eye by the way![/spoiler]