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6/24/2018 5:13:56 PM
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Forsaken story regarding fallen

Since the main enemy type in forsaken are the scorn , which are technically fallen but not completely , I hope that they expand on the fallen that are currently in the game since this story line is very interesting . I would be very disappointed if they just ignore this story line. I want to know what happened to the old houses , the Devils , Kings , Wolves , Winter , Exile . The lore that is currently in the game point to all these houses being combined into one house and are now the so called house of dusk , the ones that we have in the game but the lore is very vague about it so I would like to know more . I want to know more about what is happening and the current state of the fallen. You can even explore on what happened between uldren and the house of Kings , what is the situation of that house and will the kings be present in forsaken?
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  • Remember that mission on Titan, the one you did for rat king, where at the end there was a fallen captain that if you killed the hive Knight would just leave you? [spoiler]his title was the forsaken [/spoiler] So I think we got fallen allies

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    • The Forsaken are Fallen who've taken a worm. There's a good vid on YouTube about it. Savathun is the Queen that Eris is referring to at the end of the Taken King. If you look at some of the new fallen they appear to look like the Hive.

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      • i just can't seem to understand why there's a a fallen in the trailer coming out of a Hive Ascendant Portal holding a Boomer's weapon 🤔 oh sh!t i think the fallen made a deal with the Hive & are now Worm Carriers😲

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      • Edited by Dingse3: 6/25/2018 10:26:04 PM
        an Idea I’m running with [spoiler]The forsaken idea will be, A house of fallen allies after Uldren goes awol through the pain and loss of his sister. His intention is to help the Scorn overtake the Hive ‘that he’d have a burning hatred for believing his sister is truly dead at their hands, wanting to rid them of the universe. Hence killing a Vanguard Mentor = (obstacle) The taken are likely a power to be manipulated with the death of oryx ‘cue Eris Morn’ “I will not fail you my queen” - remember that? They’ll attempt to merge Scorn tech with Hive armies and taken influence all under the banner of the Awoken. A new power and rule moves into the universe. Think The Empire from Star Wars. A twisted perspective on peace. With the fallen also fighting against this which pulls us back to the OG D1 ideas on the fallen not being the bad guys. Mara Sov “it was all part of the...plan” It’s hard to know where Variks and the Traveler will come into play here. The travel may not until later in 2019. If Bungie have been trying to let go of that part of this universe for awhile, but Variks and his “many allegiances” as Petra put it likely means his Agenda his one of profit and personal piracy over some grand power scheme. He maybe neutral or even against Uldrens Idea (unless he is promised any appointed placement/title that benefits his own agenda) Where The Drifter falls into the story 🤷🏻‍♂️, Although his line in Gambit “embrace the darkness, kill the other guardians” is interesting[/spoiler]

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      • What about the house of judgement (I don’t know if Variks gained allies since TTK, and I doubt he would rejoin the houses he left behind)?

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      • So I went through the lore and in the lore it says that after the events of the taken king prince uldren went around the system trying to find the house of Kings . He then got captured intentionally by the house of Kings so that he could be brought in front of their kell. In the last part it is very hard to explain what exactly happened, but I speculate that uldren either made a deal with the house of Kings or killed their kell and seized control of the house, and so if that's the case then why are the main enemy faction in forsaken the scorn and not the kings? How do the scorn come in in all of this , and they are not part of the house of Kings since bungie have already said that the scorn aren't affiliated with any house and are basically fallen zombies. So does uldren have both control over the scorn and the house of Kings which have control over the other houses ( house of dusk ) . I hope they explain it properly in forsaken because it's confusing.

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      • <I'd like to know if the House of Dusk are allied with the Skorn. The dude in the chair has guards that looks kinda like they'd belong to the HoD but he's talking to us as if we're mutual companions. Maybe the Fallen in the chair is part of a secret faction. Also the House of Dusk are led by the House of Kings so there's your answer to if they'll be present. Still... we'll see about everything else.>

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