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Edited by Hubert Farnsworth:
6/19/2018 2:21:19 PM
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The truth about redrix claymore.
Remember back when bungie said that 40% of pvp players will be able to get the claymore? Well, here is the truth so far.
https://m.imgur.com/a/ubaspDe
First pic shows that yesterday we had 502.9k people playing crucible yesterday.
2nd pic shows that only 2,874 players have the claymore.
3rd pic shows 1% of 502k. And that number is 5,020.
Currently, not even 1% of players have the claymore.
I’m one of the less than 1% of players, but even I can see that bungie made a mistake with their predictions of how many people were going to get the claymore.
At first I liked the idea of losing points in glory. It reminded me of the old halo 3 ranking, where you go up for wins, and down for losses. However, the killer is the loss streak.
We’re pretty far into season 3. I wonder if even 1% of players will get the claymore. If bungie thought 40% of players would be able to get the claymore, then they shouldn’t have put in any kind of streak.
[b][u]EDIT[/u][/b]
Did some more math. As it stands right now, only 0.57% of crucible players have the claymore.
[b][u]EDIT#2[/u][/b]
I went through and found out how many people of that 502k crucible players, and looked at how many are actually playing competitive.
There are currently 258,981 players with a glory rank of at least 1. I’m sure that number is higher, if you count the players who play competitive, but can’t get a win. However, that player count, is unknown, so we will go with the number above.
This still shows that only 1.1% of players playing competitive, have the claymore.
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Well the numbers have increased now there is a current population of 16,731 players who have over 2100 points in glory so now with the 502,000 that equals out to be ~3.332% of the players have the weapon. Still not that many people have the weapon that Bungie expected.
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To be clear, I'm glad there are rare weapons again...they feel much more special in those cases...however, I wish it was more than 2 or 3 (I guess you can count nightfall-specific loot)...also, all the factors (poor matchmaking, terrible game modes, meta, etc.) have combined to form a terrible grind so I would like for them to rethink the paths toward these kind of items
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Bungie said the top 40% will be [b]able[/b] to get the claymore, not get it. If the top 40% of pvp players wanted the claymore, they could get it. That doesn’t mean they want to though
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1 ReplyNo one wants to play competitive because it sucks.
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2 RepliesMy Issues 1) You seem to lose more points with a losing streak than you earn with a win streak. 2) Vs full stack 4 msn fireteams 3)Teamates drop out after the first poor round and don’t get replaced. 4)You can match make against a 4 stack without even a full team. 5)My teammates are often lvl7 -12 running only common green gear and haven’t unlocked subclasses. 6)without a full, function team the token revive system -blam!- u over 7)Finally as always LAG!!!!!
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17 RepliesIts good that not many people have it. It shows very few people either have the skill or dedication to acquire it. Which makes sense since the majority of the players playing this game are children.
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37 RepliesI’m not playing a game mode where you’re penalized even if you play well.
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Edited by Boz: 6/21/2018 5:42:18 PMDidn't bungie say you get it at 40% through the ranked playlist? Nothing to do with 40% of players in total.. That aside, the gun is trash, basically jsut has rampage. I would be hyped if it's perk was active all the time. Additonally, the competitive playlist is just unenjoyable. Whether you're winning or losing its just bad. 4v4 graviton Lance team shot fest requires zero skill, especially adding in the fact there's no radar. And to top it all off, match making has no relationship to rank, it's just arbitrary SBMM, and there is no weighting to put teams Vs teams and solos vs solos. TLDR: competitive in this game isnt competitive; the whole thing is a joke
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4 RepliesIt's hard to believe your math is correct when Dryheave666 has gotten the claymore with his very average stats and 90% of his games being solo. He also has a trending post on these forums listing his claymore grinding advice
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1 ReplyOnly two words. GET GOOD!!!!!
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1 ReplyHaving the potential to lose all the points I just earned in 2 hours and 5 games because I land in crappy lobbies is a big deal killer for me...
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1 ReplyEdited by Divine_Majin93: 6/20/2018 9:18:15 PMWell, the ranking system seems to be quite a terrible one. And even though it's touted as having a fast time to kill, the Crux's Desperado perk just seems like a gimmick to me. I mean, does it really make much of a difference In this teamshot balance? Edit: This is right along the same lines of the raid rewards being outshined by gear that is much easier to obtain by doing mundane PvE tasks such as collecting vendor tokens on patrol. Is the Redrix simple worth the time?
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4 RepliesBeing the epitome of the 50/50 win loss ratio, I know I’ll never get it because the loss streak multiplier will destroy me. So why try...
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7 RepliesI think the failure in Bungie’s projection wasn’t so much how the math adds up but that the Claymore would increase the active players because “everyone” would chase for it. That didn’t happen. The bulk players, the passive non-sweaty, who would have swung the points in favor of continual play either didn’t show up or are sick of Crucible connection shenanigans. So Competitive was left to Trials players and that left those on the edge of to play or not to play to just not bother; the community didn’t need Trials 2. It needed an injection of players. At this point about the only way Bungie might get players out of Quick Play into Competitive is to lose the point reduction all together and leave losses at 0 point gain.
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2 RepliesThey really just need to remove loss streaks, it's just a really stupid idea. 2 losses should always equal 1 win, so at least if you lose 4 games it just takes two wins to bring you right back up. That way, as long as you have a slightly higher winrate than 50% you'll get the claymore. (it might take some time though)
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4 RepliesYeah not going to bother grinding out a whole month just for the chance that I don't get a lose streak and lose any progress I made. Nobody has time for losing progress anymore, it's a deal killer. You can have prestigious things, just don't distribute it by a progress system heavily weighed by your team's performance. It's the same as rng. Base prestigious things off skill or dedication, not.... whatever this is.
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5 RepliesCrucible is simply not fun anymore and glory system is just too punishing. The average player or even a dedicated player will not be able to do this. I am not even bothered since it is same archetype as the Vugilance
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3 RepliesThe root of the problem is the loss streak, plain and simple. If that went away players, especially solo players, would bother with the playlist.
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I do absolutely agree the grind for redrix is bollucks. It should be at maybe rank 2 if they wanted 40% of the playerbase to acquire the weapon if matchmaking was fair. It isn't. There is a post on reddit I'll leave that I highly suggest everyone to read. https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/8sew50/competitive_is_not_competitive_part_2/
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So it's one of the most unique weapons to get .So what, other weapons out there .Just grind to get it like in D1 not everyone had god rolled weapons,dammit wonder what the complaints will be once random rolls are reintroduced again.Waaaaaaaah can't get the god roll pulse ,waaaaaaah.
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22 RepliesWhy don't people talk about the highly underrated valor pulse, the marine? I recently started using it and I've been outshooting Vigilance and G lance
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1 ReplyI don't get the hype for that gun. It sucks! It's not a good weapon at all. I've never been killed by it.
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That was assuming that people would try to get it
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4 RepliesDoes it work to have really crap players launch the gamemode to lower the skill of the enemy team?
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1 ReplyThe whole Glory system is just a mess.
