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originally posted in: Petition to bring back Ammo Synths
6/18/2018 10:57:18 PM
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How often are you really in that kind of a pinch though? Unless you're doing something seriously wrong like blowing all your heavy on trash mobs before a big boss fight, 99% of the time, you should have enough to help you kill whatever needs to be killed. Even in the raids, it's not a big deal. You do an ammo run on one of the stages, wipe, then start with full heavy essentially. Not as convenient as ammo synths but, you still get what you need.
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  • pretty frustrating going thru raid like callus, being on the big head team and coming out with zero power ammo. We can do an ammo run before starting, but if we don't kill him the first 4 plates and have to run thru the big head twice, I often have zero power. Even with gloves that increase power ammo drops and with yellow bars being killed, I typically have zero. Would be nice to pop an ammo synth. Same for nightfalls or heroics. Often times the boss room has a bunch of minions, none yellow bars, zero power ammo drops. Even yellow bars don't drop consistently. Why should the answer be "just run ammo runs repeatedly" when bungie had already fixed it with ammo synth packs? What does it actually hurt? If Bungie didn't want it used all the time, put a longer timer on it. Easy fix and it doesn't hurt anything.

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  • Who uses power to shoot skulls?

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  • Umm, not me. That’s not what I said.

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  • You said big head team, which I assume is the void dimension

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  • Yep, the void dimension. We start with full power...I go into big head...come out and deal damage including all power ammo. While clearing next round of minions, I often get zero power bricks....go into big head...zero power ammo drops there...hence I come out of big head with zero power ammo. Didn’t say I used it in big head. Tired of coming out of big head for second damage phase and having zero power, very little special ammo and limited kinetic.

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  • You know what the problem is? After first dps phase, the people who go void end up with absolutely no ammo. Apparently it is a glitch or something. It happens to me most of the time but not with power ammo. Its actually the only thing that drops. No primary or energy drops though

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  • You make a good point about simply putting a longer timer on it to limit its use, that would work pretty well I think. You're also right about "just do ammo runs" not being a good enough answer. However, I still stand by my point regarding not being in this situation very often, unless you're doing something wrong, or, not as well as you could be. For example, in a raid, when you're killing adds and yellow bars, the group should stick together, as ammo will be [more likely] to drop for everyone. This is simply a by-design characteristic of destiny - if you're close to where enemies are killed, they'll drop ammo for all nearby, you don't even have to have dealt damage, but if you're not nearby, then no ammo... Employ this tactic for all raid stages and ammo shouldn't be a problem at the start (if you played efficiently, you should be maxed). It's not always consistent, as you say, but at least for me, it's pretty well consistent enough. Now, you mentioned having issues with ammo if you're not able to kill Calus on the first damage phase - all I have to say to that is, on any stage, if you mess up or don't do things in the best way, it's meant to be more difficult the longer the fight goes on, but it's not hopeless. Once you're done with damaging, again you all group up and take out adds while sticking together to get ammo. You probably won't be maxed out like you were at the start, but you should all have enough (combined with supers) to finish the fight. At this point (or, really at any point) if you're still struggling, then you need to re-examine your strategies, each person's role, their weapon loadouts, etc. Maybe some people are using crappy weapons, or not going for head shots, or overconserving ammo, not getting enough skulls, not utilizing the warlock rift (with Lunafaction Boots as a plus) or titan rally barricade for more damage, etc. When you guys wipe, look at the damage numbers of each person, and look for your problem players. Whoever is doing the highest damage, ask them what they're doing differently, and what guns they have. Just some general advice. I'm not by any means a pro player, and while I think synths would certainly be nice to have, I don't think they're necessary.

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  • Or change your gloves to get heavy on melee kills.

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  • Yep, and still rarely drops. It’s just a half measure that still relies on rng

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