So, after thinking about the whole Cayde thing, I found two possibilities that each had convincing evidence. I think the most important clue to this whole debacle is the lore tab for the Sealed Ahamkara Grasps. [url=http://example.com] https://db.destinytracker.com/d2/en/items/2166230715-sealed-ahamkara-grasps link[/url] Most people think the lie is the Brother (Uldren) being an ally, but what if it’s the final line about what is presumably Cayde’s death? I will go over the evidence for both sides and their counterpoints, beginning from weakest to strongest. Dead: 1. Bungie does not want to pay for Nathan Fillion anymore. 2. Shiro-4 has been data mined to replace him. Counter: [spoiler]Cayde does survive, but uses this whole situation to finally escape his duty as Vanguard mentor and be free from the tower [/spoiler] 3. Uldren shot him and his ghost. 4. Bungie says he is really dead. Counter:[spoiler]the Ghost may have survived (it is not on the floor after being shot) and Bungie has lied before (Do you honestly think they would have said he was alive right after showing that trailer?)[/spoiler] Alive: 1. He could be rebooted! 2. He could have a backup! Counter: [spoiler]That’s not how Exo reboots work. It’s only to deal with mind decay. Backup is unlikely.[/spoiler] 3. His Ghost survived. Counter: [spoiler]That may have just been an animation oversight [/spoiler] 4. The traveler/Rasputin could save him. Counter: [spoiler]Ex Machina anyone?[/spoiler] 5. The Ahamkara Grasps lie about his death. Counter: [spoiler]You’re overthinking it. The brother line is the lie.[/spoiler] Continuing the topic of #5, it may actually be correct. The grim-I mean [i]Folklore[/i] mentions how Uldren is following his sister’s guidance, and she saved the tower twice already. Uldren may be doing something in our favor that we do not yet know about. Of course, that does not explain why he killed Cayde. TLDR: Both are possible with many points and counterpoints, but until Forsaken Launches we do not know for sure. I am sure I missed some things, so feel free to continue the topic further. [spoiler]Now where is my spinfoil hat?[/spoiler] Edit: some good ideas and points have been made on this subject, and I may make an update later covering them all for better viewing in the sea that is forum threads. Edit 2: one of my friends had an idea for what the unseen force that has all the awoken in jeopardy (as mentioned in a Gameinformer article) could be: Savathun/Quira due to all the Taken imagery seen in the trailers (Gambit and the dreaming city). I think that if this is true, it’s more of a teaser than anything.