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9/19/2010 6:37:24 AM
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Why is Dr. Halsey so nasty to the SPARTAN-IIIs?
When you "first" meet Dr. Halsey, the conversation is tense and curt. She threatened to put Kat in the brig for not knowing that the data chip was ONI property. What the hell? They've been busting their asses killing hordes of Covies, and repelling the invasion of Reach, JUST to have Halsey give them a stern rebuke!?
I immediately thought it was probably because they, unlike Jorge, are not "her" SPARTANS. They are Ackerson's. And when Carter tells her not to be fresh, because she's treading some deep waters "interfering with a SPARTAN deployment", she acts like someone just insulted her mother! And then, to top it all, at the end of the game she basically kidnaps them! Where does she come off acting like she owns the place?
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Halsey threatened Kat because she knew Kat tampered with the data. If you were delivering an important package to the mastermind of the MJOLNIR armor and SPARTAN program, would you look through it? That would be like reading a private letter from the General of the Army that's being sent to the President.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AdmiredAcorn Because they were created both without her knowledge and with inferior equipment and training.[/quote] and because each spartan II was taken from a certain gene pool that was very restricted on who was picked. the spartan III's were taken from a wider gene pool and were only trained for 10 years each. they were made to be expendable. all of alpha battalion was wiped out. all but 2 of bravo battalion was wiped out. and noble team was probably from omega battalion because they were sent out and we dont know what happened to them except for katana and sabre i think. they were on onyx when all that stuff went down there. dr halsey eventually lightened up to the spartan III's when they saved her tail enough times on onyx.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThePredkiller2 I dunno, read the books, she was quiet nasty to the Spartan-IIs as well.[/quote] I wouldn't say she was so much as nasty, as she was "cold" to them. It was necessary because of what she knew what she would have to put them through. She could not afford to see them as children because they were test subjects. She was afraid that if she allowed herself to become to close to them, she would not be able to do to them what was needed, in order to save the human race. If you read [i]The Ghosts of Onyx[/i], you will see that her feelings had changed to the Spartans.
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Halsey was against the creation of Spartan III's if I'm not mistaken.
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Dr. Halsey only created the SPARTAN II program. Not the SPARTAN III program. So I believe that there is a little competitive edge to the conversation there. And she does own the place. It's her laboratory that she used/(uses?) to create the SPARTANS.
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Halsey is not one for emotion much because she is a powerful scientist, both smart and have some sort of military influence. Once you reach a degree of intelligence emotions and showing them become much more of a hassle. So it may sound rude, perhaps to her she is just being frank. She has a set few that she shows emotion to. As those few get smaller in number so does the willingness to even show them any emotion. More intelligent = more emotionless (you see feelings as a bad quality that gets in the way of duty). But more emotional =/= less intelligent.
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If Kat messed that data chip up, there would be no cortana...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xxcYyLOnexx2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Maxi96203 Scientists are -blam!-s. That simple.[/quote][/quote] You're an idiot, plain and simple. If you want to live in the Dark Ages, go ahead.
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I still have no idea how you harbor so much hate for Jun Hyle.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Maxi96203 Scientists are -blam!-s. That simple.[/quote]
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Wow, yeah, they must be...otherwise, life would be so much better without scientists, wouldn't it? What a -blam!-.
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I just said, "oh, it's just a woman talking" and just brushed off that whole conversation. Women in power are nasty: Personal experience. I doubt 500 years in the future would change that.
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If you read the book you'll see that she is mean to everyone equally. Lol. She gets away with it though because she is the Chuck Norris of Halo.
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It isn't a time where everyone is nice and cuddly, it is war. You do what you need to do, or ordered to do, and that's that.
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It's been hinted Kat did know what was on the chip, and has hacked into/obtained restricted files several times before this. And she's curt towards them because she views them as cheap knockoff supersoldiers that never should have existed in the first place. At the end she kidnaps them because she knows Reach is doomed no matter what they do, but the Forerunner ruins Cortana has found might give them the crazy shot in hell they need to turn the war around. She was right.
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yah halsey sorta a Bit*h when it come to carter LOL
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Read the Journal. She is unbelieveably pissed that somebody copied her program without her permission and rushed several aspects of it that she views as crucial, such as the indoctrination. Though, I loved the way that Jun looks super insulted in that first cutscene with Halsey. Best part is that the insult wasn't even directed at him, it was directed at Carter. I bet he cried himself to sleep over that one. [i]"I am too a Spartan... I have a Sniper and Everything... It should be against the law to make fun of people with Snipers!"[/i]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SS_Zag1 Kat actually accessed the data on the chip, as she is seen doing all through the campaign, constantly getting in where she shouldn't.[/quote] Thus the name Kat! Cat, Kat, curiousity...yeah, it's one of those "I see what you did there, Bungie" moments.
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Because the II's almost died getting augmented. The III's are like. "HURP A DERP WERE PARTAN3 WE KICK A$$ LIKE TEH SPATEN 2S" They just trained and that's it, She was nice to jorge because he was II. [Edited on 09.18.2010 10:42 PM PDT]
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I dunno, read the books, she was quiet nasty to the Spartan-IIs as well.
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they aren't spartan IIs. she probably feels angry that others stole her work and she's taking it out on noble team
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I have to agree, OP, I never imagined her being quite so...*ahem*, moody. I feel they overdid her nastiness a bit.
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Scientists are -blam!-s. That simple.
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Kat actually accessed the data on the chip, as she is seen doing all through the campaign, constantly getting in where she shouldn't. Halsey is like a mother to all of the Spartan 2's, and the Spartan 3's aren't her project. She doesn't like them telling her what to do and so forth. She's kind of mean. Read the books.
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The Spartan-IIIs were made without her consent, so she is sort of a dick to them I guess.
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because She the only reason humanity has a chance to survive so if you -blam!- with her you -blam!- with everyone.
