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Solo players getting absolutely punished for playing crucible

Now I'm gonna start off by saying no, I don't always solo play and a fair bit of the time I've got a bud or three who can que with with me. However, getting matched up with 3 solo players against a full clan fireteam of 4 in competitive...well...that is absolutely punishing for a mode that has no radar and limited lives. Now, if you still gained progress towards your glory points regardless...maybe I could say its not so bad, and which is why in quickplay its w/e move onto a better game. But at the same time I can't because well, why is it fair that anyone gets grouped up against random people who aren't going to bother communicating and has to fight full teams who are on PSN, Xbox chat, or discord or w/e a group may use, and gets punished because they have to play 3 times harder than normal for a statistically lower chance to win just to maintain positive points, a win streak, or otherwise. I don't see any incentive to go grind glory solo when the last 6 matches I played against were me and 3 other solo players fighting a fireteam of 4, doing our damnest but still getting absolutely crushed because the fireteam has a instant edge in familiarity with each other and communication and get punished the same way if I lost a much more fair game of all solo players. Not to mention god forbid a game gets won against a fireteam well we receive again, the exact same rewards for beating a team of solos. I can see a lot of solo hardcore pvp players getting disintrested in playing the game now because they can't make any fair progress in competitive against the slough of fireteams they have to fight. I'm fine with the implementation of a ranked system and the way it works is pretty neat too, but it shouldn't be punishing to solo que players. Personally I'd like to see the return of a a que list that only solo players can go into for a fair que environment. This gives an option to those ultra "I can fight a whole team" hardcore types to keep chugging themselves at fireteams while the more "I'd like a fair fight" minded people can have a place to que into and not worry. Something seriously needs to change in the matchmaking and what that change is likely will not be perfect but something needs to be done for the solo player community to at least make crucible fair game for all.

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  • Playing competitive right now solo and it's horrible getting grouped up with clan mates against a team of randoms is bad but then you get punished for it by losing your rank points.WTF! Hey bungie freaking psyonix the developers of rocket league outsmarted you lol.Its called solo competitive.Lol.Will only dream of that gun I guess.My friends quit playing awhile ago and ain't coming back.I just got back into it 2 weeks ago and love it but hate! You give a gun as reward for one and crap all for the other.From us solo players help us enjoy your pvp mode.Thnx.

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  • you know, back in the day, back in the early halo days like halo 2 and halo 3, we could actually talk to one another in game, freely. and even here and talk to the opponent . but alas toxic levels soared to all new heights and it was removed the trend has been since then to not have chat in fps games because people just dont know how to act. i was thinking the other day what it would be like today if they had chat in destiny and fortnite, and then it struck me, it would be like the aids filled lobbies of h1z1, i thought i heard everything in the halo days. heck no, h1z1 lobbies took the crown

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    • If they split up the queues the whole thing would fall apart. Fireteams would have to fight other fireteams, and a large majority of them would absolutely hate being in a fair fight.

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      • Obligatory GIT GUD :-)

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        • [quote]Now I'm gonna start off by saying no, I don't always solo play and a fair bit of the time I've got a bud or three who can que with with me. However, getting matched up with 3 solo players against a full clan fireteam of 4 in competitive...well...that is absolutely punishing for a mode that has no radar and limited lives. Now, if you still gained progress towards your glory points regardless...maybe I could say its not so bad, and which is why in quickplay its w/e move onto a better game. But at the same time I can't because well, why is it fair that anyone gets grouped up against random people who aren't going to bother communicating and has to fight full teams who are on PSN, Xbox chat, or discord or w/e a group may use, and gets punished because they have to play 3 times harder than normal for a statistically lower chance to win just to maintain positive points, a win streak, or otherwise. I don't see any incentive to go grind glory solo when the last 6 matches I played against were me and 3 other solo players fighting a fireteam of 4, doing our damnest but still getting absolutely crushed because the fireteam has a instant edge in familiarity with each other and communication and get punished the same way if I lost a much more fair game of all solo players. Not to mention god forbid a game gets won against a fireteam well we receive again, the exact same rewards for beating a team of solos. I can see a lot of solo hardcore pvp players getting disintrested in playing the game now because they can't make any fair progress in competitive against the slough of fireteams they have to fight. I'm fine with the implementation of a ranked system and the way it works is pretty neat too, but it shouldn't be punishing to solo que players. Personally I'd like to see the return of a a que list that only solo players can go into for a fair que environment. This gives an option to those ultra "I can fight a whole team" hardcore types to keep chugging themselves at fireteams while the more "I'd like a fair fight" minded people can have a place to que into and not worry. Something seriously needs to change in the matchmaking and what that change is likely will not be perfect but something needs to be done for the solo player community to at least make crucible fair game for all.[/quote] For people who're sick of reading a giant wall of text without any spaces In between.

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          • And here you are, on the forums punishing people with that wall of text...

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          • Edited by Slappin1224: 5/24/2018 4:32:19 PM
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            • Not me. I'm gonna be the first solo player to obtain Redrix's Claymore

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              • I'm not getting punished

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              • Edited by RDKru: 5/24/2018 7:24:02 PM
                The funy thing, that I played all my games in this IB solo, and IT WAS FUN, there no reason played I vs full fireteam o not, IT is god damn fun, I killed 5 enemies from another team with my super, and there was another funny moments, so I do not understand u.

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              • Personally I do better in crucible solo than with clan mates. I am on the slightly below average on the SBMM curve so that may be why it works for me but I rarely run into four stacks and rarely go on a losing streak more than 2 games. I believe your story but know the system does work for others.

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              • This is how it is on any got damn shooter. Why is this solo crap plaguing Destiny? Of course a team vs a group of randoms is going to win( not always but often enough) If you guys REALLY want to match a group of player. Push bungie into making the mic automatically turn on once you're in a match. With no option to turn it off unless yo mute a player..

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              • Edited by Jenga: 5/23/2018 12:52:50 AM
                I'm glad there's already a thread about this so I don't have to create one. Pre-forumlated groups have their space in the competitive queue. There needs to be a fireteam player-count cap put on the non-competitive variants, such that you can't queue for them if you have 3 or more in your party.

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              • Solo players have generally gotten the shaft since HoW and Trials dropped. If you don't want to play in a fireteam, Bungie has made it perfectly clear that you should find another game.

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              • I figured out what's wrong right now with PvP. As of the expansion update, it's trying too hard to be D1 PvP despite having the weapon system of D2. It's already drilled into everyone's minds that team shooting is the way to play so giving everyone insta-killing weapons has only made things worse. More than half the games I play are miserable and the rest are probably miserable for the enemy team as well. The game rubber bands except sometimes it takes hours for the game to finally give you that one team capable of playing an objective game to win, just so you can lose the next 10. I and others I've seen and spoken to have records similar to that of a 1 win to roughly 10-15 losses. That's not on at all, I play solo because I have nobody who will play with me because they feel that matchmaking is harsh with me, but that can't be in CBMM can it?

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                • Edited by Stillnyte: 5/23/2018 5:11:12 PM
                  [quote]Now I'm gonna start off by saying no, I don't always solo play and a fair bit of the time I've got a bud or three who can que with with me. However, getting matched up with 3 solo players against a full clan fireteam of 4 in competitive...well...that is absolutely punishing for a mode that has no radar and limited lives. Now, if you still gained progress towards your glory points regardless...maybe I could say its not so bad, and which is why in quickplay its w/e move onto a better game. But at the same time I can't because well, why is it fair that anyone gets grouped up against random people who aren't going to bother communicating and has to fight full teams who are on PSN, Xbox chat, or discord or w/e a group may use, and gets punished because they have to play 3 times harder than normal for a statistically lower chance to win just to maintain positive points, a win streak, or otherwise. I don't see any incentive to go grind glory solo when the last 6 matches I played against were me and 3 other solo players fighting a fireteam of 4, doing our damnest but still getting absolutely crushed because the fireteam has a instant edge in familiarity with each other and communication and get punished the same way if I lost a much more fair game of all solo players. Not to mention god forbid a game gets won against a fireteam well we receive again, the exact same rewards for beating a team of solos. I can see a lot of solo hardcore pvp players getting disintrested in playing the game now because they can't make any fair progress in competitive against the slough of fireteams they have to fight. I'm fine with the implementation of a ranked system and the way it works is pretty neat too, but it shouldn't be punishing to solo que players. Personally I'd like to see the return of a a que list that only solo players can go into for a fair que environment. This gives an option to those ultra "I can fight a whole team" hardcore types to keep chugging themselves at fireteams while the more "I'd like a fair fight" minded people can have a place to que into and not worry. Something seriously needs to change in the matchmaking and what that change is likely will not be perfect but something needs to be done for the solo player community to at least make crucible fair game for all.[/quote] Made it easier to read for people who're sick of walls of text.

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                • Played 5 or 6 games of IB last night solo, every match against a stacked team of 6 -_- Safe to say I lost every game and my KD went down the toilet.

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                  • Bungie should implement a playlist for solo players. That should fix it in theory.

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                  • I agree man, D2's crucible is so gay because everyone has to hold each others nuts to win.

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                    • MERCILESS MASTERWORK https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/245531617/0/0

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                    • Made a post about how to improve everyone's time in competitive [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/245518178?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=0] Level headed changes to competitive [/url]

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                    • [quote]Now I'm gonna start off by saying no, I don't always solo play and a fair bit of the time I've got a bud or three who can que with with me. However, getting matched up with 3 solo players against a full clan fireteam of 4 in competitive...well...that is absolutely punishing for a mode that has no radar and limited lives. Now, if you still gained progress towards your glory points regardless...maybe I could say its not so bad, and which is why in quickplay its w/e move onto a better game. But at the same time I can't because well, why is it fair that anyone gets grouped up against random people who aren't going to bother communicating and has to fight full teams who are on PSN, Xbox chat, or discord or w/e a group may use, and gets punished because they have to play 3 times harder than normal for a statistically lower chance to win just to maintain positive points, a win streak, or otherwise. I don't see any incentive to go grind glory solo when the last 6 matches I played against were me and 3 other solo players fighting a fireteam of 4, doing our damnest but still getting absolutely crushed because the fireteam has a instant edge in familiarity with each other and communication and get punished the same way if I lost a much more fair game of all solo players. Not to mention god forbid a game gets won against a fireteam well we receive again, the exact same rewards for beating a team of solos. I can see a lot of solo hardcore pvp players getting disintrested in playing the game now because they can't make any fair progress in competitive against the slough of fireteams they have to fight. I'm fine with the implementation of a ranked system and the way it works is pretty neat too, but it shouldn't be punishing to solo que players. Personally I'd like to see the return of a a que list that only solo players can go into for a fair que environment. This gives an option to those ultra "I can fight a whole team" hardcore types to keep chugging themselves at fireteams while the more "I'd like a fair fight" minded people can have a place to que into and not worry. Something seriously needs to change in the matchmaking and what that change is likely will not be perfect but something needs to be done for the solo player community to at least make crucible fair game for all.[/quote]

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                      • Solo que is really not that bad, you just have to adjust your game and use weapons that will give you a chance against multiple targets. If they are all holding hands use flash and thunder when you get heavy. Drop a grenade in the middle of the group and disorient all if them, then pick one or two off with your primary, then back off. Hopefully at least one teammate will be near you and can help. Always use a primary with Quickdraw so you can swap to it immediately after using f&t. Fighting lion is a great secondary to use with this combo. I solo mainly and this works great. Just got to be good with grenade launchers.

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                      • The only thing I hate about solo play is the huge number of late registration games. Some of my best games ever have been against 3 and 4 stacks.

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                      • I thought it was trump building a wall? lol

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