Well, to be fair - there have been complaints about the skill tree itself in the past - but mostly it was from the perspective of one sub-class to another. I.E. - why can they do this, but I cannot etc. We likely won't see eye to eye on this, and honestly we don't have to. I think you understand my point, you just don't like the idea of being considered part of the problem and would prefer to have Bungie/Activision be fully at fault. Which I do feel they have blame to share, btw. That's fine. I'm not saying any one specific member of the community is the problem, or even A problem. But I do think the way this community posts about issues is very confusing (to the average reader) as well Bungie and it's mostly the reason we get these hackneyed patches and mechanic changes. Not because they WANT to alienate the playerbase, because they're actually trying to and failing due to the vast inconsistency of feedback that often focuses around the same issues. Just look at weapon changes. It's clear they don't know exactly what we want (and in many cases we don't seem to agree on what we want) but they're trying to appease feedback and imo such is problematic at the core. I'd prefer they stuck with their vision and just ignored the community. That's why D1 vanilla was so magical after all.