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4/11/2018 4:39:38 PM
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Hacking and Network Manipulation still supported by Bungie in Crucible

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  • We do not support Hacking, Cheating, or Network Manipulation in any form. To quote the "[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Troubleshoot?oid=13967]Report Suspected Cheating[/url]" form: [quote][b]Bungie actively investigates network manipulation and other forms of cheating. We will continue to monitor game performance for people abusing the system and enforce our policies. We regularly address players who we have confirmed are cheating in one form or another. Rest assured that we will continue to do so. [/b][/quote] If you believe you have encountered a player that is breaching the Destiny/Destiny2 License Agreement, please submit a report to the [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Troubleshoot?oid=13967]report suspected cheating contact form[/url]. Additional information concerning Account Restrictions and Banning Policies, please follow this link: https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/11929

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    • I think it's funny. Bungie cant actually redact a gamertag to protect them. Clay shows up in plain text on google search results for this thread.

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    • [quote]Topic body[/quote] Yes I agree with this multiplayer cheating and hacking it is just laying into me it shows you have no skills so you have to cheat are you have to get people on the opposite team to help you reach certain achievements you off your own Merit and skills can't get it done and if you use a character that you know that you had used aimbots with and any other mods then to me any achievements you obtain it don't count anything you do in a game to me don't count cuz that character is not of the actual game it is something you created to alternates the game but I think people that like to alternate the game need to create a game of Their Own put it out there and see will buy them play it most likely ain't nobody going to buy

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    • Bump, but only because Clay_is_Clutch took just as long to get recognition for his (noble) deeds.

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    • Nice

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    • I drove through the Bungie studio parking lot for 3 hours in my white Bronco, and no one even batted an eye.

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      • Edited by Spawn: 4/12/2018 5:16:45 PM
        I say we all pitch in to send [REDACTED] to the Bungie summit. I’m sure his insight in all of this would be welcome there.

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        • There have been a few very popular threads talking about a whole community of cheaters, forum moderators keep removing them, redacting info, throwing out ban warnings. Maybe ban the cheaters instead? But hey, it's a witch hunt, it's unfounded, there's piles of evidence years deep on these guys, but of course we need to protect their privacy and be careful about making any accusations. What a joke.

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            They say they don't support it. This guy and his clan have been doing it for years unpunished. They support it by letting it continue.

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            • One of my fave destiny vids to watch 😊 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1sMmoy2DBxk

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              • support is obviously wrong attempt to combat an exploitable flaw in virtually all p2p hosting systems is more accurate choose the cheap route by not using dedicated servers, providing less value to players, is accurate IMHO they should use dedicated servers for as long as the playerbase is strong and then switch to p2p when it dies off too much to make sense

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                • I Agree! It's still Alive and Well! Nice one Bungo! Can't do Anything Right can you Tools!

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                • And how do you expect them to fix it?

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                  • Cant remove them all player numbers are at an all time low already

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                    • Failing to truly stop cheating in the game is representative of supporting it. Nerfing and buffing aspects to give certain characters advantages over the others is creating unfair experiences. Remaining biased and impervious to legitmate concerns and feedback is corrupt and unethical. You have a lot to correct bungie. Maybe you will get there. Maybe you wont. But, you drag the community down with you wherever you go.

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                    • There are a tone of hackers and cheaters in this game Bungo doesnt care

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                    • Working as intended, quit wasting bungo's time with crap they know about.

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                    • HONEST THOUGH WE REPORT HACKERS AND NOTHING EVER HAPPENS, ONLY IF A YOUTUBER WITH A LOT OF SUBS POINTS A GUYS OUT. THEN BUNGIE WILL DO SOMETHING

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                      • Edited by Spawn: 4/12/2018 5:16:16 PM
                        I know I started a post on the one infamous particular player we all know and love good ole [REDACTED] and it got moved then buried somewhere on here or even deleted. Soooo I posted it again with a few edit adds and I actually got a PM from dmg04. I sent him the best links that showed obvious cheating. Its not just a poor connection and the rapid fire mods they are using are insane, I've never seen a nameless midnight fire so fast in full auto, oh wait that's a scout rifle right? Here is the conversation I had: dmg04: Hey Grendel, Could you send a video or evidence of the cheater that you're reporting in the forums? Thank you. Grendel023: Just go to YouTube and type [REDACTED] there are a ton of videos of this guy and against people that I know are honorable streamers. He and his clan mates have been cheating for several years. I know Aztecross has a good video of him and clan mates and there are better ones too, let me see if I can find the one I saw yesterday that shows things very well. (I sent two good links to YouTube that showed obvious cheating) Grendel023: This one is pretty good too, but there are hours of video on this guy and his clan mates, I don't normally make a big deal of things but this is bad, I mean really bad, and the fact that others know him by name anymore is even worse. Please give me your honest opinion after you watch some videos, if you feel he's not cheating then so be it but I know he is you can see it clear as day. I really do appreciate you taking the time right now to message me and ask, I know my post is tough but sometimes getting attention is not easy on here lol. So thank you for that at least, much respect... (Keep in mind being rude doesn't get you help, even if nothing gets done I will always be respectful to anyone, you catch more fly's with honey than you do vinegar and dmg04 at least had the courtesy to message me and ask for video which was a heck of a lot more than I expected to happen, nothing may change but at least I know they have the info we all see) dmg04: Respect to you as well. Apologies on the moderation, but we do hold a strict rule of "No Witch Hunting" - so we remove player names to protect those who may not be cheating, but players are rallying to get them punished due to poor connection quality or other issues. With that said, I've sent this report along to our Security team. They'll look into it, and issue a restriction or ban if evidence is found of cheating. Cheers, -Dylan Grendel023: Thank you and yes I agree I have had a poor connection myself which caused lag and I know I am no cheater lol So now we know at least someone has seen all this so if nothing happens then we know they are simply ignoring it and really don't care because all the video online clearly shows a cheating clan with [REDACTED] at its center so hopefully this outcry will get something done...till the next set of cheaters arise I guess or something more drastic is done where they can control the cheating.

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                        • There’s no such thing as cheating or network manipulation. Get good you thumbless apes and stop crying. 😘

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                          • Experienced this recently too. These guys have been doing this since d1, oftentimes. There’s some sort of rate of fire hack going around nowadays too in addition to lag switching and ddos. That’s p2p networking for you.

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                            • OMG. That’s horrible. What happened??? Did you get killed from around a corner by The Colony?

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                              • I am a average PvPer so I bitch, grip and say WTF a lot when I am playing. I also play with a friend that while not a god has a 1.9 or so KD, not KDA hell even my KDA is positive. But there was a match awhile back that when I started to hear him say WTF and no Fing way I knew it wasn't just me. They had side arms that fired at 1200 RPMs and you could hit them with a Fist of Panic 3 times in a row they would just walk away then turn around and kill you in .3 seconds. Later that night my friend sent me links to their stats on Destiny Tracker looks like they have been doing this for months.

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                                • How can you tell if someone is cheating or if they just have crap McDonald's wifi combined with the games shitty servers?

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                                  • Edited by FenRaft: 4/13/2018 4:16:58 PM
                                    There are cheaters in every game but that guy is so -blam!-ing brazen that he has become the stuff of legend. I hardly play PvP at all, I never watch streamers ever and the guy doesn't play on the same platform as me but even I know who ****_**_****** is. He's that bad, it's even gone beyond the D2 community at this point. Just search destiny cheating on YT and there are 15 videos of this guy. There's no way - no way at all! - that Bungie have never heard of this guy. No -blam!-ing way. Yet there he is playing, week in, week out, with his cheating mates.

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                                  • Bamhammer weak AF these days.

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