Both of these are [i]somewhat[/i] true. But which one is more true? I can see both sides of this argument. On one hand, it really is a slippery slope to start censoring women based on how men will react. On the other, common sense does have to come into play at some point. I mean, girls can just come to school in swimsuits, and then expect nobody to stare or be aroused.
So where exactly is the line? Who decides if something is "explicit" or "intentionally sexual?" Leggings are tricky for school dress codes, you see. Because they technically cover everything up.
When I was a kid, "spaghetti straps" were the hot topic. Schools everywhere were banning them, claiming they showed too much skin, and were a distraction in the class room. Today, leggings are the latest banned article of clothing. But what is the justification for banning them? Shorts and skirts are easy. Most schools just have rules on how many inches above the knees they can be. Simple. And for boys, the only rules are usually no sleeveless shirts, and no sagging pants. Again, easy.
But leggings are a completely different animal. They cover [i] everything,[/i] so none of the previous rules apply. The problem is the thin material, combined with them being extremely tight & stretchy, creating a silhouette of girls' bottom halves. Some would argue it's closer to body paint than actual clothing. But why stop there? If sheerness and tightness are the problems, couldn't you just ban anything made from the same material? What's next? Banning under armour? Or how about just really tight jeans?
Furthermore, isn't it a little accusatory to just assume that boys will be distracted? Or do you think that this is just an undisputable fact that they won't be able to resist looking?
As a guy, I can tell you, if I see a girl in leggings, [b]I'm going to look.[/b] But is that really a bad thing? Am I so overcome with lust that it's actually affecting my education? [i]Is[/i] there scientific data that suggests repeated moments of arousal can negatively impact academic performance?
I did some light digging and found that [i]"men’s performance on working memory and attention tasks declines after interacting with a beautiful woman (Karremans et al., 2009)."[/i]
Studies have found that cognitive function decreases as men become sexually aroused. Basically men get stupid around women they're attracted to, but I'm sure you already knew that. So what should schools do with this information?
Well, a simple solution is same-sex schools: all male or all female. I briefly attended an all male high school, which is why I can tell you first-hand, the difference was [i]astounding.[/i] I never realized how much time I dedicated to [b]staring at girls' asses,[/b] until there weren't any girls around anymore.
It was SO much easier to learn. Instead of performing mating rituals all day to attract female attention (acting like macho douchebags), we were actually all just motivated to [i]learn.[/i] I didn't even know that was possible.
Anyways, that was just my experience. Maybe it was just ME who was a hypersexual teenager with the attention span of a grapefruit.
Scientific research and personal experience lead me to believe leggings and yoga pants are definitely a distraction, but should girls be punished for that? I mean, isn't sexual arousal pretty arbitrary? What if one day, all the boys in a school suddenly become OVERCOME with uncontrollable desire for girls who wear blue? What, is the school going to add a blue jeans ban to the dress code?
This type of thinking is how we end up with women walking around in sheets. And I don't think any of us want that. It's oppressive and stunts progress. So what are we to do? Besides same-sex schools, I don't really see a fair way to fix this issue.
What do you guys think?
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I think that if they are causing such a distraction they should be banned. Nothing should be banned without reason
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Same sex schools come with their own slew of problems; the first one being not knowing how to act around the opposite sex. And even if tight clothing is distracting, that's how it is in the real world some times. You got to learn how to deal with it.
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1 ReplyWhat’s wrong is bashing on males for their natural hormones while growing up but giving women a pass for that wonderful week once a month. Heaven forbid a boy gets aroused by something but it’s ok that she’s a beotch for that week because of her hormones.
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2 RepliesJerry Seinfeld put it best, albeit about cleavage: [quote] Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun. You don't stare at it. It's too risky. Ya get a sense of it and then you look away.[/quote]
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I think the issue with this is the message comes off as blame on girls rather than 'hurr durr it's just biological/ psychological reaction'. I can not speak on behalf of the men 'staring' as I am not one of them. I however, can come from the viewpoint of a lady...who kinda likes ladies, and leggings/ cute girls never 'distracted' me from schoolwork - I coming from the UK however, did only experience school in my own clothes rather than uniform, from ages 17/18 during my A-levels, wherein I wasn't really bothered with infatuation/attraction, because I was busy doing my damn A-levels, being stressed and inflicting various self-deprecating anxieties onto myself due to said stress. I guess I was distracted into doing school-work as to not focus onto the mental health issues creeping into the flesh-being I am today. I think that it's almost surreal (not in a bad way) that this is apparently a cause for debate in the sense of 'do dude genuinely get distracted by girls', but just because I can't imagine it, it's foreign to me. I don't know whether it's socialisation differences between men/women growing up, that it's more socially acceptable to consider that guys fawn over women, or whether girls at a younger age are able to conceal their personal attractions and discern their behaviour (like how boys have less finely tuned motor skills comparable to girls at younger ages etc). But then we open the can of worms of 'at what ages are boys getting distracted, what age are these rules applied, isn't it strange that the sexualisation of women happens so early on, why the heck are young girl's shorts that freaking short you garbage stink fashion industry give them boy-length shorts that goes down to/just above the knees and not just half way to the thighs. I'm getting off-topic...huh, how appropriate. Anyway, I think that school uniforms are the neat solution, provided that they aren't ghastly expensive or seen as an 'elitist'/'upper class' thing, again, I don't know what the connotations of uniforms are in non-UK schools, and I know the US for example seems to have many schools without uniform dress-codes. (I understand that lots of girls do like to abuse skirt-length by rolling it to be shorter, at the thighs perhaps, and that is something where you can just say 'the school rules say they have to be at knee length' and if they break code-of-conduct they get penalties...that's another can of worms...just make all students wear trousers eff it). If you want non-uniform dress codes that ban leggings/jogging bottoms, fine, but then it must be applied to all students, not just girls. The amount of dudes at my school who would wear their trousers/pants/jeans/whatevers low enough that I could see their butt (underwear-clad thankfully) was obscene, if a girl had the same amount of her butt/knicker showing that'd be seen as blatantly sexual - basically destroy double standards. If a girl's not allowed to wear a vest/sleeveless shirt because X amount of cleavage shows, dude can't either with their breasts either, flat pecs or swole musclebound titties or not. It's just that kinda thing to me. Restrictions should apply to everyone and not be staunchly upheld to restrict women/girls specifically. [spoiler]Also, the aspect of 'I'm gonna stare' is strange, like, ok passing look/glance, that happens, but there is a semblance of choice to move focus from school work to the butt. At least when you choose to describe your actions like that, I'm not trying to be mean or something like that, it's just the semantic of it sound like this is something we should but blame on dudes for, not the flesh globes on allegedly every woman? Again as I am not a man I have no idea the mental happenings in your brain, so I genuinely mean those words with no harshness or malice intended.[/spoiler]
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1 Reply>when women have to wear burkas cuz boys can't keep it in their pants
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Yep, just make girls wear Burqas.
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12 RepliesOption 2. Yoga pants/leggings cause distractions, and men [u]will[/u] look. Women that get offended when they purposely do this can piss off. Do men wear spandex shorts or go shirtless in public gyms? (Never seen them in my area) nope, because we are not attention seekers. I'd expect women to do the same. If men do this in other areas, please dont and have some self respect.
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3 RepliesAlthough a good conversation, theres no point in even trying to talk to you because everything you say is a lie
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you should always dress appropriately depending on where you are. most companies / schools have dress codes and you should follow them. in your freetime you can do whatrver you want but if youre wearing yoga pants dont be surprised if someone looks at your butt.
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3 RepliesGotta love when girls intentionally break the dress code, smh. I hate it when they dress like absolute sluts and expect us NOT to stare. Piss off.
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8 RepliesSchools should have a uniform policy which also allows a summer variation ie:shorts for both sexes.
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4 RepliesI think schools have a responsibility to maintain a learning environment, and sometimes young women deliberately dress in provocative ways in order to attract male sexual attention. Which has the potential to have a disruptive on the environment. ..and a woman wearing yoga pants to class is the equivalent of a guy wearing bike shorts. Story from my youth. In place where I had my first real job two female junior employees---in an environment of overwhelming male workers---decided to have a little competition. To see which one of them could wear the shortest skirt to work. This went on for months----and of course their male colleagues loved the free show, and the foolish young women were lapping up the negative attention---until a female senior manager stepped in. She pulled them aside, and quietly jerked a knot in their tails. Rumor had it she had told them: [i]Clearly you left part of your dress at home when you came into work today. I suggest that you go home and find it.[/i] The "competition" stopped that morning. Young women turning themselves in to sexual displays for male enjoyment is not "progress". Especially when it involves women too young to understand that they have other things to offer offer the world, and too foolish to understand the message their dress is sending about them. A school has a right---and a responsibility---to set a dress code. When they are off in their private lives...then they can dress any way they want.
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1 ReplyLet girls rock the yoga pants as long as guys can show up in jammers or chubbies. But no, obviously leggings or skintight workout clothes don't belong in the classroom. And it's not for the sake of the guys.
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Well, it can help you figure out if any of your bros are homo or not.
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This is a sticky one. To some degree, I think girls should be able to wear what they want, but they should not be surprised by the attention they get.
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Its yes and no for me. Yes, girls should be able to wear whatever they want as long as their attire isn't too revealing. However, girls should be aware that teenaged boys [i][u]are[/u][/i] going through puberty and they [i][u]are[/u][/i] getting curious about female anatomy in a sexual way, so girls should dress accordingly to avoid unwanted attention.
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6 RepliesThere's a lot you learn in high school that isn't a particular subject, like communication, social skills, and teamwork (even with people you don't like or who don't pull their weight). One of those things is controlling your impulses and getting your work done. Guys just have to learn that.
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All I have to say is don't ban it cause that would be a tradgedy and either way we will stare at something else
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I went to school in the '80s and had a constant bone then, I couldn't imagine what it's like now.
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It’s part of growing up. You ban leggings something new will show up or be the next ‘sexy thing’ guys look for. Separate sex schooling prevents kids from learning proper social skills
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5 RepliesIf anything, the boys should just take it as an opportunity to learn how [i]not[/i] to think with their penis. Its all part of growing up!
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If it's the boys wearing them then yes it would be a distraction, no body wants to see school boys smuggling budgies into school. There's that many wearing skinny jeans now that leggings will be the next step.
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I dunno
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2 RepliesYeah... it’s distracting. My wife wacks me on the arm every time we drive by the high school around the corner... “Hey... They know what they’re doin. No different than when you wear your purse strap in between your boobs.” ... needless to say, the last comment did not win me any points.
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You’re thirsty and need a girlfriend