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2/10/2018 4:37:30 AM
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why does brother vance act completely different between D1 and D2?

seems like there is no explanation for osiris turning into a fanboy. he went from calling the speaker a charlatan to wanting to shine my gun.... why?
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  • As much as I love D2, I die a little everytime I hear Vance or Osiris speak. To be fair, D1 started down this Disney path - I still remember thinking WTF when I was called young wolf in RoI 😳

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  • To the BDF saying it’s because he didn’t have a personality in D1, yes he did, he went from a strong silent type to a whinny fanboy.

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  • He said like two lines. He didn’t have a character.

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  • Because the writing team is awful and Curse of Osiris is awful. The Disciples of Osiris could've been written as students of Osiris and the Lighthouse could've been their headquarters while running mission control for him. He could've investigated the Dark Future with us and realized that his obsession with the Vex was a curse he placed on himself and isolating himself was only making it worse while losing what makes him a Guardian. At the end of the story, we could tell Osiris that the Traveler is awake and we could get a scene of Zavala and the faction leaders agreeing to lift Osiris's banishment. The final scene could be between Ikora and Osiris where he admits missing the sight of seeing people happy and peaceful. He could then act as a special class item vendor like the Speaker did in D1.

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    • Because D2 is made for 4-year-old little girls.

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    • Because they needed comedy and couldn’t think of a way to work cayde into the DLC

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    • Different writers . Sorta like Star Wars, Force Awakens sets Rey up for a huge ‘who’s her daddy reveal’ . Then a new director comes in and decides his own artisitic vision is where it’s at.

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    • Edited by Front Runner 13: 2/13/2018 10:26:58 PM
      He discovered cocaine. Fu[b]c[/b]k yo couch...

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    • They needed to fit in with the new norm and have a gender neutral slightly limp wristed character due to all the testosterone fueled cabal .. The dude was mysterious and kinda bad ass in d1. Now not so much . I feel bad for joesph staton he has to know what bungie has done to this game .

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      • They completely ruined his character.

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        • [quote]he went from calling the speaker a charlatan to wanting to shine my gun.... why?[/quote] Folklore

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        • Osiris has a different voice too. I’ve started playing D1 again.

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        • I agree - for a while it seemed like there was actual conflict and different points of view among the guardians....Guess not..

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          • Bungie laziness towards story. Needed a comedian and cater to casuals and 4 year old nieces

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          • D1 is now folklore so while we played that game for years and remember things and people being a certain way, we're just remembering things wrong. They were never truly like that, the stories we enjoyed and invested so much time into we're false, and it was all just a dream or heresy at best.

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          • I’m gonna like this post purely to ruin the 100 upvotes and made it 101 lol

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          • Lore-wise there could be some reason why In the reef, everything seemed a bit professional with a lot of guards and vendors. So Vance’s fanaticism for Osiris was probably looked down upon by the queen and others, and was told to keep it to a professional level. So after leaving he was able to be a fanatic again

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          • Probably because his fanaticism increases the closer he gets to his idol. I swear. The whole expansion might as well been titled “Destiny 2: Vance: Notice me Osiris senpai!”

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          • trash writing team.

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          • Vance wasn't much of a character in D1. He was a vendor machine with a few lines he would spew. Arguably one of the smallest NPCs in the entire game. Only a few selected like Master Yves were even less relevant. In D2 he had a much bigger role and more lines. So he needed to be expanded upon. The foundation of that was that he was a literally blind follower and cultist of Osiris. That all is to say, Vance was, like many NPCs, really a big blanket of a character that was mostly interpreted by each player individually. In D2 he now is a fixed, predetermined character that is no longer subject to interpretation but to what bungie makes him say. Which ultimately crushed the illusion and individual perception people had of him.

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            • Edited by Dr25697: 2/10/2018 4:14:27 PM
              Because the new Bungie has no respect for their own legacy, the players, or the game. How brother Vance acted in part 1 is folklore. D1 was made for gamers. D2 was made for children.

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              • D1 Vance was folklore...

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              • That's what happens when you hire comic book writers to write your sequel. Comic book writers have this crazy, insane obsession with rebooting details every other month just so they can leave their personal mark on an already established story created by someone else. That's why I don't read them.

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                • D1 never really happened according to the new writers. 👌🏼 It‘s all just unimportant folklore and subject to change.

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                  • Ahhhhh Ikora Rey. Osiris’s greatest student. Vance. Osiris’s greatest.... fan

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                  • Wow, so many people here who don't understand satire. Brother Vance was clearly written as a satirical fanboy who worships a man as a god. His lines are hilarious.

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