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Edited by Spawn:
2/5/2018 1:09:57 PM
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REPEAT AFTER ME: Do not penalize people for leaving a crucible match (Read before voting)
The idea of penalizing people for leaving a crucible match is all wrong. Just take a step back and think about it. [b]Think objectively[/b].
[b]First, ask yourself: why are people even leaving crucible matches.[/b]
The answer: because the score is something like 70 to 16; and because the servers are garbage; and because of cheaters.
Let me first address the scoring...
It's fun to win, we get it, but it's not fun to lose, especially 70 to 16. Who in their right mind, be it in a game or a sport, enjoys playing at such a disadvantage that the game loses all the fun-factor? Who among you would like to step into a real boxing match against Evander Holyfield? Similarly, who wants to face a team of highly skilled players when you yourself, along with your team, are not so highly skilled?
[b]Clearly, one problem is Bungie's unfair match-making.[/b] And I think most of us will agree that a more even playing field would help retain player activity throughout the entire match.
As for the servers, it's painful to see ourselves shooting our enemies and have then not take damage. The lag is real in this game, and it's atrocious. Coupled with the laggy servers are those who are lag-switching.
I just think that rather than penalizing your player-base for leaving your poorly thought-out and designed crucible environment, Bungie, perhaps you should instead even the playing field some, fix your servers (*cough* dedicated), and go after the cheaters.
Another option would be to give people more incentive for staying. Encourage people to play your game for the sheer fun of playing it. Don't punish your community for your mistakes.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this. We all play this game and everyone's input should be welcomed. Feel free to agree or disagree with me, just please keep it civilized.
Thanks.
[spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0] See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses.
Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyIf everyone is this upset over being placed against stacked teams, they should bring back the freelance playlist for the solo players who just want to be placed in with other solos as keep the team playlists for those who are a full fireteam.
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Bump! I 100% agree with you!
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Address this: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/242796679?sort=0&page=0 I get what you are saying, but the post I linked reveals match making cheating in PvP. This directly impacts the amount of instances where people are compelled to abandon a match. Because of this, I believe the match making manipulation needs to be resolved first and foremost. Once that is done, we can reconcile the state of PvP. Until then though, everything kinda hinges on player behavior. If people are cheating and choosing their matches so they can walk all over other players - people will continue to leave matches, perhaps even abandon Destiny as a whole. Check reddit search for "matchmaking" - you will see tons of posts. Basically fireteams are able to target solo players / weaker players to ensure they are matched. They then walk all over those players. I had 4 people leave a match yesterday... and as long as this cheat is present, I don't blame people for wanting to leave a match, or the game as a whole. When cheating is removed, I can then speak of how I feel then about people leaving matches - because then I would know cheating isn't involved. I could be against it, or for a change to matchmaking in general. I don't know as long as a cheat is present.
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People wouldnt been leaving if the werent paired with stacked teams
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1 ReplyPersonally, I don’t rage quit and find that the quitters mentality is the problem! If it’s broken don’t use it, wait until it’s fixed or buy a new one! Games can turn around but will “never” have the window if you quit! Report cheaters to Microsoft and also Bungie, it’s Microsoft’s platform, so they “will” be dealt with! A game is a game so a loss is just a loss, what do you want, a gold medal? Quitting is giving up and leaving the rest off the team in the shit, that sort off mentality deserves no more attention!!!! Quitters should be banned!!!
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1 ReplyExcellent points. This game doesn’t even have any competitive PVP and never will. The iron banner grind has been such a major chore and not enjoyable in the least. Too many virgins team shooting and crouching around the map. No skill involved at all. None.
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1 ReplyQuitters are more annoying than the reasons people quit. Simple as that.
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No, repeat after me...
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9 RepliesEdited by uhhh so: 2/6/2018 8:41:25 AMJust because your team is losing doesn’t mean you should leave and i don’t think there’s any cheaters in the game at least not on console Edit: also you have shit internet not the servers
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Im pretty sure if you walked off the field / court because you were losing you would be punished. so i vote for 1000 deaths added to the stats and a 30% damage reduction for the next 10 matches if you quit.
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PvP in this game is so bad I can't even do the call to arms anymore. The iron banner is a -blam!-ing chore right now and I'm happy I got all the ornaments so I don't have to do it next go around. The regular PvP is shit and slow. Solo players are getting placed with a 4 man stacked team and it sucks for them. If I want to leave cause I don't want to be destroyed by a 4 man team I should be able to. Or If I want to leave cause we are getting destroyed I should. Put it in competitive leave the quickplay as is.
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I’ve said the same for a long time. I just can’t bring myself to play anymore. If anyone gets put onto the losing side in a game in progress why should they stay and get destroyed. The matchmaking is laughable, there’s one thing to have a uneven game every now and again but not every other. All the time even when there’s 4 randoms and 2 fireteams of 2. The fireteams get paired together against the 4 randoms. Wouldn’t be so bad if winning wasn’t so dependent on teamshooting.
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I couldn’t play this game after experiencing the fast gameplay and better customization of D1. After trying my family members copy of D2 when it released I knew right away all my predictions came true. But you are absolutely right. If the game wasn’t broken and in such a poor state I would say yes, implement a quitting penalty. If they implement a quitting penalty when the game is this bad it will just drive more people away. Good luck with matchmaking and connections when the player base shrinks even more. Domino effect upon domino effect.
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[quote]Do no penalize people for leaving a crucible match[/quote] Wouldn't make any since considering how shitty pvp is in D2. How the -blam!- you gonna punish people for the stupid shit you did. Thats like the law putting drugs on the streets and arresting drug dealers..Wtf
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Blame bungies shit ass p2p connection status. Not having dedicated servers in a PVP game mode causes extreme latency issues within our characters. Most of the time it’s barely noticeable but it’s enough to allow a few extra shots without knowing. When you feel 1 or 2 shots and die, yet you’re unloading magazines into opponents and barely breaking their shields, that’s latency issues. It’s noticeable to the keen eye and was you’ve played awhile you’ll pick up on it. As soon as I start feeling like my character is slower then snail snot and bullets not registering or registering late. I bail and jump in on another match in hopes to have a better connection to others connections.
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2 RepliesIt should be only for competitive not quick play, I hate loading into competitive and I watch 2 people leave after getting trashed 2 times in a row. << how is that fair too me? When they don't add people in. Quickplay I could care less doing 3-3 or waiting for a 4th doesn't bother me a bit. Good luck with your topic.
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3 RepliesYou quit you should be reprimanded your screwing the whole team by quitting. The only believable exception is you had something else to do; otherwise take the L like a man and move on it's a game.
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Instead of repeating after you could I say it correctly as your sentence isn't correct?
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5 RepliesDid you miss something? The entire reason we have 4 v 4, a different gun system, one super per match, and less heavy ammo is because of attempts the "make the crucible fair". What do you want nerfed now? Sigh.
