The irony is, most of the ones leaving are the very ones who helped shape what d2 was with their constant biatching about pvp throughout destiny 1. two primaries, a result of the constant biatching about special weapons and ammo. Slow power regen and reworked armor stats, a result of the constant biatching and whining about being punched, grenaded, supered, etc in crucible. I can even go back to a saved vid of byf literally complaining up a storm because he came up against our clan in banana and kept getting sniped when camping a long sight line on the Mercury map that came out near the end. 4v4 and a stunted playlist, a result the constant complaints about lack of balance in trials by most of these people who are now complaining about a lack of stuff to cover or play.

That’s not true. What we got in D2 was nothing people ever complained about in D1. No one ever said, we want fewer options in crucible or an inability to pick our playlists. No one ever said we wanted the subclasses to have less customization. No one ever said the faction system in D1 was a problem. No one ever said movement speed in D1 was too fast. No one ever said the ttk in D1 was too fast. No one ever said NF modifiers weren’t fun. No over said change the heroic strike modifiers. No one ever said give us more Ever Verse. No one ever said we want more loot behind a paywall. No one ever said random rolls on weapons or armor wasn’t fun. No one ever said we wanted weapons that were “samey”. No one ever said take the light level grind out of the game, i.e., leveled areas(cosmodrome, mars, Venus, moon, titan, EDZ, Nessus, io), trials, iron banner. Basically, Bungie took the most fun parts of D1 and took them out of D2. Sorry, but your statement is just wrong.

Literally taken from some of the older content of the "content creators" who are leaving destiny, not to mention the whiniest shiats on here parroting much of it after someone "important" said it: Grenades are too strong, too powerful, no grenade should be a ohk. Supers are too often, wreck game flow Supers are too strong, they shouldn't be able to kill other supers so quickly Supers artificially inflate scores for bad players Supers take away the skill of the game Supers do too much to change the momentum of a game Abilities can be inserted for just about all of the above X, y, or a build for X, y, or z class is unfair and unbalanced, it has to be taken out Shotguns are too powerful Snipers are too powerful Special ammo is (still) too plentiful Special weapons make matches unfair or unbalanced or otherwise dominate everything Random rolls on the guns are unfair We shouldn't have to chase perfect rolls, just give us the best outcome of each gun Random rolls on armor are cancer Random rolls are bad for destiny Random rolls on guns give advantages to random people And so on and so on with random rolls Special ammo ruins matches Exotics ruin matches I prefer 3v3, 6v6 game modes are ruining balance for trials I can keep going. These things are what devs listened to for months on end, and what we got was the game most of these same content creators loved and creamed their pants over at the invite events. I can literally walk you through a moment where our clan owned the shiat out of byf a couple games in banana and he went on a long diatribe the next day against special ammo, snipers, and special weapons. Bungie listened, unfortunately the morons and idiots did most of the speaking for us.

Just gonna point out yes supers are insanely powerful but the fact you can still get killed using it makes it more fair yeah you can kill in seconds but if the enemy is organised they can get you too invincibility or near enough drains fun and fairness from the game end of on that and supers you only get once maybe twice a crucible match and the second time is only if you get enough orbs from your teammates yeah they can turn the tide of a battle it's what a well timed and used super should do but if you do it cos why not your probably gonna do nothing to win the battle that said mayhem the " holiday crucible game mode " is basically use supers grenades etc as much as you want f-about have fun

I see your points, fair play. These were complaints, but they were complaints from all the snowflakes out there. These are the things that made D1 competitive and unique....and fun. These were things that none of the hardcore base complained about, I was one of them, and I’m just an average player who enjoyed the unique gameplay of an MMO-Looter-shooter-ability shooter. Bungie listed to the wrong crowd, now they’re paying for it, and so are we. And I don’t even play D2 anymore. I think it was Destin Legary from Fireteam chat who said it best, D1 was a hangout for friends, and now it’s been taken away (I’m paraphrasing). That’s the biggest problem, I think. Unfortunately I think that also means D2s bones are bad.