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Does anyone actually think that Bungie are going to give the response people are going to want to hear? They wont get rid of eververse, its here to stay. Like it or not, even if it disappeared off the face of the earth it would not fix the problems with this game as it stands. It wont bring players that have left the game back. Im just waiting what the next topic will be for everyone to jump on the next bandwagon.

Ssshhh we’re still collecting money throughout the remaining time for The Dawning event. Until then... Pay me! I think that’s what they’re saying.

Honestly, Bungie doesn't need to respond to the ignorant sheep who think they know whats best for the game. # keep EV, remove idiots from the forum/

Eververse is a problem, but it's the current focal point for all the other things people are bent out of shape about. Removing Eververse will not, at all, make D2 better. It might make D3 better though. Making D2 better is priority number 1, and hopefully they pick that up first, then make sure D3 isn't a cash grab and is a proper game done well. It's the hope that kills us.

Honestly, I don't think Bungie knows how to respond. I fault Bungie for most of it but we all need to acknowledge that micro-transaction is a trend for the entire game industry. Games are measured based on this revenue stream. I am not making excuses for Bungie but I blame every player who buys this micro-transaction garbage in any game, not just Destiny. Look, Bungie are great developers. They just decided to go a direction that will not work. PLAYERS do not play these games for a monetization experience and players are not stupid. There is no system that any developer can implement where the players will not see right through it. Bungie can fix this... first, eververse has to go as it is a symbol of everything wrong with this game. Second, Bungie needs to look at the game from the perspective of the players and what is fun. I keep reading about engagement, experience, systems.... I promise you every developer at Bungie is a gamer. They need to consider what would you want to play, not how you can moneitize it. A few keep arguing that eververse is nothing, only cosmetic items. I contend that eververse crushed the soul of this company. You cannot have it both ways, a game designed to take players money cannot be a game players love to play.

From bashing libs to shitposting, you've become a superstar

[b][i]Just stop playing their game, and stop buying their products.[/i][/b] [b][i]Only then will they be FORCED to change.[/i][/b]

They’ll remove Eververse with a $40 DLC.

You could do the remove evertess, till your blue in the face. Not going to make a difference. How many people come here and read this? Maybe 20,000. Out of 8 million. Vocal minority. The only way to make a difference that bungie and stockholders will listen to is numbers of active players. Stop playing. Not for a week, month or year. Just stop playing sell your game, stop posting, stop giving them money. If 114 people download the next expansion. Or trials drops to 500 active players heads will roll, contracts will be broken. Then and only then will the game change or shutdown. Every evertess, kill tess post made is comformation that the vocal minority is still actively playing.

You did it! I wonder what magic you used to get their attention!

you are a legend!!!!!

Well... a lot of the gaming industry media will be watching for their response on Jan 11. Battlefront 2 got some great PR after they removed lootboxes and sales picked up. They are now considering whether to permaneantly keep lootboxes out. BUNGIE can come out of this looking good, but it will depend on if they are really listening to customer feedback or not. We’ll see.

There is much to fix. I'm happy if they ignore eververse and start working more on CORE things to fix.

See, this is where everyone is getting it wrong. Eververse isn't the problem, it's what's hidden [b][u]solely[/u][/b] behind it that's the problem. Make ships (exotic or otherwise), sparrows (exotic or otherwise), shaders?, emotes (exotic or otherwise), ghost shells (exotic or otherwise) and everything else, available from [u]more[/u] places than [u]just[/u] Eververse. Eververse should be [u]supplementary[/u], and there for those that don't have any issue spending their money on it... Like D1. The slippery slope has lead us here, and many saw it coming. Eververse isn't going to totally go away, that's an unfortunate fact... But at least by removing the [u]sole[/u] purpose for it, it will no longer be the monster it has become. [b]Edit:[/b] At the very least, one thing they could change to make Eververse more palatable, is that when you purchase Silver (using that "hard earned") and buy engrams, they should work like Xûr's "Fated Engrams", in that you should get a guaranteed exotic (something) that you don't already have (plus whatever else). I mean, they're doing it already for free with Xûr, why not extend it to Eververse so that if you don't want to spend money, it's about the grind, and having your time rewarded, but if you want to, you can spend real bucks. Best of both worlds because you are guaranteed to get the loot either way.

They will just add back some things that were included in the original purchase price just a few months ago. I'm pretty certain that there is nothing that can be done at this point to earn back player trust.

People who think Bungie working on Eververse means they will stop fixing other games issues, don’t see the correlation between the two. Bungie on purpose limited the game to push the use of the store, the limited the XP gains, nerfed drop rates and made it so every end game activity had some connection to the store. Forcing them to work on the store will in term force them to improve the game overall. Make content more rewarding by constantly giving you something on each activity, instead of just waiting for that one engram that may or may not have the item you want. And even through gameplay there’s so many items on the store, and with their smart idea to screw over the XP gains, that in the end spending money is still better, this is the main issue as gameplay is downgraded in favor of spending money.

[b]DESTINY 2 : GAME OVER DLC[/b] I have “ invested “ in alot of time and money into the Destiny Franchise. I have bought the 2 games, all the dlc’s from the 1st game, and Destiny 2 & lastly Cost Of Osiris DLC. I have spent over $300.00 for this franchise. I have supported Destiny while everybody was trashing Destiny and Endless grinding for guns. I have been a loyal customer/ consumer to this point. I knew when one of your executives said, “ The Story arc for the “ stranger “ has been finished and will not be included into Destiny 2. I knew that was a warning sign. And NO the story arc for that character was not the end but the beginning. You cannot introduce a character at the end of the story and shut that character down. Nothing was explained with that character. I tried my best to overlook that stupid decision. But Bungie had a good game for Destiny 2. It was good. But I have been playing Curse Of Osiris and the story and Strikes are basically killing the same bosses and the same story boss enemies. Your game has many flaws Destiny 2 Flaws: NO New classes & subclasses It’s a sequel. Your supposed to introduce new classes and subclasses. Vault Space ( same problem from Destiny 1 ) Didn’t you guys learn ? Players like collecting and it’s a loot based game. Same enemies from Destiny 1 ( I am tired of the Taken ) Economy Glimmer should be 1million glimmer limit Heavy ( Machine Guns ) have been removed. Why ? No new subclasses for the game & DLC Curse Of Osiris No new classes Again No New classes Again No New subclasses Why ? Hire me ! I got great ideas. I got new classes and subclasses for your game. I can make at least 3 new classes & subclasses. It’s sad. The story is boring and doesn’t make sense. I’ve joined a clan and they have not invited me or have not been able to play raids. I haven’t played 1 raid yet. Because you do not have incentives for veteran raid players and toxic players to entice them to recruit new players. No choices ( in playing what you want to play. Crucible is garbage. It’s much worse now than Destiny 1. Destiny 1 had numerous choices to play. I can play control all day and enjoyed playing control. That is not an option now. Story is boring and predictable No matching making means alot of your player base is left out for playing raids. Shaders ? I don’t care about Shaders. The problem is your game. 13) Warmind DLC ? Sounds like garbage because your game does not have the “ Stranger “ in it. I have paid for the DLC Curse Of Osiris. And I will level up my 3 characters but. I can’t buy any of your future products. I will finish up this month. But I am done. Bungie your game is terrible. Your game is disappointing and I cannot support your game anymore.

I don't really have a problem with eververse in of itself, my problem is that the microtransaction shop seems to have as many resources put into it as content. I mean, we paid AAA price for the game, then $20 per expansion, and half the new content becoming available we have to pay more for, and gamble to get. New content that is locked to pay only. Sure you can earn a few bright engrams, but there's no way in hell you are earning enough bright engrams over the holidays to find all the limited time holiday MTX items, at least not without farming 20 hours a day of the same 5 strike missions and 4 public events. To me, eververse is not a problem. It's the scale of it, what percentage of new development is going into it. We paid $20 for an expansion that has a short raid lair with largely re-used assets still from destiny 1. We have the same 3 classes we've had since destiny 1, we have the same 9 subclasses we've had from destiny 1. Destiny 2 is [b]starving to death[/b] for fresh content, but instead of fresh content, we're offered more real money gambling box items. A game like Path of Exile can get away with releasing several MTX skins a month, because it also releases an entire new game mechanic, dozens of new items, and balance overhauls every few months for free. So if they throw some MTX skins into the shop? That's fine. But with destiny 2, we're paying $20 (instead of free) for less new content, less rebalancing (to none at all), and having way more purchasable crap shoved down our throats. All the bugs that exist, all of the massive imbalance issues that exist, all the sorely lacking content, and development is instead being spent on selling more stuff. You can say "you paid for the initial game, and you got it. you can't expect further development for you for free". Absolutely, i agree. I paid for the initial game, i played it, and without further development for actual content, I'm gone; the book open and closes both ways. If you want player retention, you have to do more than just try to get more money out of them.