Sheep. And trolls who don’t play the game. Hypocrites who weren’t interested in “cosmetics” when they were in the game to grind for, but now it suddenly an issue after the seasonal refresh of EVs stock. Childish tantrum throwing.

At the risk of just getting lost in the crowd, here's my take on The Uprising. It's really down to timing combined with a whole lot of pent-up agression and frustration. D2 came out and people had... issues with it. Maybe not huge ones but there were a lot of little things. To make it worse, a fair few were things that either had been removed from D1 or things that people had been asking for since D1. So parts of the community were beginning to feel unlistened to. There really did seem to be little in the way of acknowledgement of feedback immediately following the release. Possibly as they were gearing up for the PC release. As well as the time and effort involved in finishing and marketing that, they were probably hesitant to start speaking up about the things that needed improving when it would be basically pointing out flaws in the version they were trying to sell for PC. All through this, there were relatively quiet (but still persistent) rumblings about the fact that a lot of things were gated behind Eververse and the token system that in D1 were just flat out loot drops of Glimmer purchases from NPC vendors. To make it worse, Eververse was now RNG lootboxes rather than straight up purchases. Then the whole EA/Battlefront thing blew up big, which basically began a bit of a witchhunt against any microtransation lootboxes. I'm not a fan of them myself, far from it, but the reaction seemed a little extreme. But what all kicked it off was three things happening in rapid succession but not necessarily in a useful order. [i]Firstly[/i], they started to address feedback. Finally. And even then, a lot of it was vague and the community was cautious and taking a wait-and-see approach. [i]Secondly[/i], CoO dropped. Alongside the first waves of improvements, there were a few underwhelming factors in the DLC/update as well. Added to which,a lot of the new loot was Eververse gated again. Not the end of the world, but also really really bad timing. Oh, and Prometheus Lens had a bug tat slipped though QC. [i]Finally[/i], the Dawning dropped. And although you could get the items through event participation (and Bright Dust purchases), the sheer amount of items meant that any collector who wanted to get every possible seasonal item would be very hard pressed to get them all through gameplay. if it was even possible to do so. Oh, and this time there was a Nova Bomb glitch that slipped into the game. So basically, a community that was feeling ignored saw two flawed content drops before many of the pre-existing flaws were addressed. On top of this, there was a seemingly high emphasis on microtransaction lootboxes, just at the time where these are being seen as a Bad Thing. And then Bungie shut up shop for the Christmas break - right at a time where goodwill and patience had run out for some. And Bungie are just leetting the forums burn. Which, to me, is a bigger sin than Eververse as I only find that an annoyance. [b]TL;DR[/b] It's a combination of project and community mismanagement on Bungie's part and fantastically awful timing.

Kids are butthurt that some of us can afford eververse and they dont have the money, so they want it removed due to lack of finances

Those of us pissed off about MT's in general are not simply isolating our annoyance with Bungie and D2. Did you miss the entire Battlefront 2 fiasco? You know, that thing that caused EA's stock to plummet? The entire MT paradigm for every game needs to go. Let us get stuff in game, or do not even waste the time or money designing this MT crap in the first place.

I already posted this on another similar topic but these are my current qualms with it: "I don't mind eververse existing in the game. My current issues with its current state: 1: I don't believe that in a $60 game that charges for worthwhile DLC that you should get consumables when you pay real money. You should get permanent things. Shaders, mods, transmat effects being the culprits here. I don't mind the eververse armor sets (as long as there are still plenty in the base game), emotes, ornaments (ornaments are actually an awesome use of eververse), ghosts, etc. 2: Eververse was pitched as funding for the live team to make events like... the dawning... so eververse is now funding... eververse. That isn't a value proposition or a consumer friendly business model. It's shit. and you know it. The only non eververse thing that is interesting in Dawning is Mayhem and it came out of D1. 3: ships and sparrows while theoretically fine in Eververse used to be unique rewards from tough content. Feels bad having that taken away. I'm fine with them being in eververse... but lets add some unique versions back into the standard game loot pools... thanks. 4: I don't think the fireteam medallion should have increased loot chance. I'd decrease its price by 20 dust and have it just do XP (feeding its own loop). increased loot chance isn't a big deal in this game since you get so much loot. but it just feels out of place that it exists."

The issue is that Destiny is a $60 game with paid DLC’s, costing up to $30 and it plays like a free mobile phone game, where your sense of progression in the end game feels like it revolves around Eververse and loot boxes. The Dawning, specifically, shows off that sentiment. You couple this with Bungie’s intentional deception of XP gains and seasons to generate a sense of urgency and you see that in addition to selling a full price game, they’re trying to bleed us for stuff that should be acquired by playing the game, not through micro transactions.

They are mad that they can't afford to put money into microtransactions so they can get their dawning gear.

It's cause Bungie is spending more time updating the cash shop instead of fixing/putting more items in the game

Pretty simple thing to understand. The Eververse was used as an excuse to supplement the "Live Team". In the very beginning anyone with any semblance of intelligence could see that the Eververse was going to turn into a large problem. Fast forward to now. Ships, ghost shells, and sparrows all now neatly tucked away in the Eververse, removed from their once in the wild loot pools. Shaders were changed from account bound to single use to further incentivize the use of the Eververse. Exp gate happened, twice, which is an obviously underhanded approach to incentivize consumers to use the Eververse. DLC drops and more of the DLC based rewards were again hidden behind the Eververse rather than in the wild loot pools. Dawning, same thing as DLC. Now we have people calculating exactly how much does a 4 seasons a year for 4 years, aka 12 seasons, would cost both financial and EXP wise. What we have as a result is seeing that 12 seasons in a collect it all game would take either $10k OR 4+ years to grind. 3 year game life cycle is shorter than the 4+ year grind. It doesn't add up. See players arent against developers making money. We want the doors to stay open. What we don't want is to be lied to and extorted out of our money. MicroTransactions are a predatory practice that is not going to save the gaming industry but rather kill it.

You're missing the point. The problem is that Eververse is tied to predatory loot box RNG instead of just letting the player buy the items they want. That system belongs in free-to-play mobile games, not a $60 AAA sequel with a season pass. D2 is already a game that leaves players yearning for content among many other problems. Taking event content and putting it behind a casino is not a good look. If people don't speak out against it, you can bet the problem will get worse. This is Activision.

Can someone please help me [i]understand[/i] why I have to [b][u][i]PAY[/i][/u][/b] for Exotics that were released in year1 [b][i][u]AGAIN[/u][/i][/b] in some watered down DLC in year2? Seriously. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE -blam!-ING ENLIGHTEN ME🤯🤯🤯 Destiny 2 is trash Eververse is trash Her f’ing brother Church or whatever his name is, is trash Bungie is trash 👋🏼Felecia 👉🏼Destiny 1👈🏼