Seeing as this is currently the highest upvoted post on this topic... I thought I'd post my opinion on this issue here and leave it at that. Speaking as an ex guardian (I traded in D2 roughly 2 months ago after being on board since the beta of D1) it has genuinely restored my faith in this community and gamers in general to see so many of you on here actually being on the same page for once. Now I know the BDF members will say that you're all just jumping on the bandwagon etc... But let's face it, those people are well and truly in the minority now... Even if you only frequent these forums occasionally I'm sure you know who they are so I don't need to name them (and end up getting banned... Yeah... Like IGAF at this point lol) The one thing "those people" have in common is this... They constantly try and shift the blame from the people responsible (Bungle/Activi$ion) and direct it at you instead... The players, the loyal customer who has given Bungie the benefit of the doubt time and time again... But yet it's somehow your fault that we've ended up here, with an ever decreasing player base and so many dissatisfied players. They'll say stuff like, you asked for this, Bungle are people too and their doing their best, that making video games is a business and they need it to be a profitable one (Well... Duh!) Ignore their agendas and ask yourself instead why they devote so much time and effort to tell you that you are wrong and your opinion doesn't matter. Will anything actually change to make this game better? If recent history is anything to go by probably not.... In saying that, you know what I've mostly been playing since I quit D2? Star wars battlefront 2... and I'm loving every minute of it... Ironic I know but the reason I mention it is that it's a prime example of how player power can influence the direction a game takes if enough people say enough is enough and actually stick together and hold the real people responsible. Hope you all have an awesome Christmas and an even better 2018... Peace.