The combat in the game is fine, the content in the game is what is utter trash, atm. There's less customization to be had (1-use shaders, very shallow armor pool with recolors, restrictive armor stats, static weapon rolls, no artifacts). Less individualism to go about (less subclass customization, less exotic customization, less weapon customization, less armor customization). Less things to do (no pve arena [could've been in infinite forest], very low strike count, 1.25 raids after first dlc, two pvp options, no faction tracking, no strike scoring). Less rewards for the things we DO do (no strike-specific loot, no adept weapons, unrewarding iron banner). Less things to kill (no Siva). But more cosmetics per patch. Listed several problems, and still not all of them. Bungie has yet to address any of it, and THAT is the problem.

The combat is not fine... it’s ok, kind of I guess, but it’s actually pretty bad if we’re honest! Again doesn’t feel anything like the Destiny we loved and couldn’t wait to play again. As for this whole shader argument, yes it’s a low blow and Bungie are out of line to do it. But seriously who gives a shit about shaders! The game isn’t good and we’ve got players moaning about their nail polish?! Who cares what -blam!-ing colour my armour is! The guns and movement feel shit! Fix that first Bungie!! Then sort out the costumes for the bloody children.

Shaders are a small factor. I included that just because it IS a factor. But I've grown to D2 pvp, it just sucks when you're not in a full fireteam. I've still managed to pull off 1v3 situations w/o super useage. Oh, quick note, whatever Bungie did in a recent update f*'d up the game even more, because frames drop like mad in crucible. Can't even hold my sights on an enemy because the frames just start going wild. It's like PUBG when you're in a 3ft fight with someone in the early phase of the game. D2 just seems to get more and more unoptimized each patch, when at launch it felt like butter on pc.

The PvP is terrible dude. I don’t want to have to hold hands with my team just so i have a chance when I meet the other firing squad, sorry I mean team. Whether I’m in a fireteam or not it’s usually the same. I played the PC beta but didn’t get the launch game (I chose not give bungie more money). The PC version of D2 felt like a completely different game. I don’t understand why it feels so much better and yet bungie cant implement that to the console version. They say they want them to be identical but they’re just not. Like at all!!

PC version has less recoil. That's pretty much it.

It felt miles better. There’s more to it than just recoil, the movement feels a million times better. Recoil doesn’t bother me, but yes the fact there is no recoil helps a lot.

Movement feels better because you're not moving at 30 or less fps.