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Edited by vmondude: 12/22/2017 3:36:44 PM
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I’m sorry like, I know it not your fault, you’re just a cog in the rusty tired old wheel that is Bungie. But these Masterworks weapons and future armour just don’t make a fraction of the difference needed to make the game fun again. At the rate players are dropping out from Destiny 2 and by the time you actually get around to applying any *significant* changes, there simply won’t be any players left to notice. You have ripped out Destiny’s soul. Unless you want to rebuild it from the ground up... or remaster D1 and expand it’s universe, like originally expected, by everyone, then just leave it alone and let it die in peace! I’m sorry, i am, I know that’s harsh but the entire body of original Destiny fans are totally and utterly gutted at how much has been removed and been done to this game. It had such potential it was magical. But now it’s a mere shadow of its former self. Either revive it properly before you loose us all for good, or except it at a loss and make D3 early... and do it RIGHT the way it should be. OR... Just sell Destiny to another studio, that actually WANTS to make it something great!
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  • Why do people get so raged when we say that the game needs improvement, if you love it so much don't you want it to be better, stop telling yourself this game isn't a failure, it is

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  • THEN WHY ARE YOU STILL ON THE FORUMS?

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  • It’s called hope..... hope that someone out there will listen.

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  • Eat turds bungle dong fiddler.

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  • Edited by vmondude: 12/22/2017 3:08:46 AM
    Ooh hang on I know this one err... to write a message to Bungie?

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  • Edited by Flips: 12/22/2017 3:08:38 AM
    You arent even giving reasonable feedback. You are just saying, your game sucks, you will probably never fix it, and other players agree with me. Thats fine if you want to write them a message about what is wrong and what you would like to see, but simply saying this game is still far from good isnt even remotely helpful.

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  • How about, oh I don’t no, stop running the game as one big casino

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  • Eat turds Obey...

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  • Dude I totally agree but they know exactly what’s wrong from the millions of other messages on the forums. They’re just avoiding it like the plague because of how much change is needed. Scroll through it there isn’t one happy post man. I have written plenty of stuff with a lot more detail on other threads, but here I just thought I’d keep it a simple reminder of what’s at stake. 78% of players have already left according to reviews I’ve seen, so how long till the other 23% have had enough of waiting? I doubt it’ll be as long as the new year to be perfectly honest.

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  • Sad but true. Some people need to accept how much of a hash has been made of it. No amount of apologists will make it right. You are making a valid point, without ranting, or coming over all bitter and twisted. The facts are the facts plain and simple, d2 is dying. What could have been so good and full of promise, is so utterly bad and an empty shell of what it could have been. At this time trying to put a band aid over a ruptured artery isnt going to cut it.

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  • Oh believe me i am aware of the issues and i see the posts. Its just that what people are most frustrated about is cosmetics behind paywalls. They forget about how many shaders are in the game that dont require payment.

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  • That’s just a teeny tiny little dimple on the problems dude. I’m just sending a reminder that this isn’t going to solve the underlying issue. It simply isn’t Destiny any more. No need to explain, they know exactly what they changed and what needs to be done to bring the core players (the majority) back again.

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  • But its not a dimple. Its a blotch. Every post on the forums is about eververse and paywalls.

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  • Oh don’t get me wrong that is part of the problem but what’s the point in making anything look pretty if the base game is not Destiny anymore. If you played D1 you should know what I mean dude come on

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  • I have played since year 1 and i fully recognize it is a totally different game as destiny 1, but the reason destiny 2 was made so different is because there were so many nerf complaints in d1, so bungie did what they thought would solve it. And thus, we end up with d2. Weaker weapons, and no more special ammo. But the base game, the way you get drops, the way you level up, its all still destiny.

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  • It looks the same and has the same people in it, but that’s about it! Devrim Kay is the perfect example of what Destiny 2 has been turned into. Total and utter stereotype, condescending cheese, with a side order of “we don’t care” Gouda. It used to be a dark, moody and atmospheric, action packed, crazy fun fest! Now it’s just a flat and dull, slow team shooting only, bullet sponging, give me some more money flop!

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  • Edited by RpiesSPIES: 12/22/2017 9:07:06 AM
    The combat in the game is fine, the content in the game is what is utter trash, atm. There's less customization to be had (1-use shaders, very shallow armor pool with recolors, restrictive armor stats, static weapon rolls, no artifacts). Less individualism to go about (less subclass customization, less exotic customization, less weapon customization, less armor customization). Less things to do (no pve arena [could've been in infinite forest], very low strike count, 1.25 raids after first dlc, two pvp options, no faction tracking, no strike scoring). Less rewards for the things we DO do (no strike-specific loot, no adept weapons, unrewarding iron banner). Less things to kill (no Siva). But more cosmetics per patch. Listed several problems, and still not all of them. Bungie has yet to address any of it, and THAT is the problem.

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  • A big fail for me is that you are stuck with a faction untill they say you can change. Not like d1 where you could swap weekly..if you wanted.

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  • Edited by vmondude: 12/22/2017 9:41:11 PM
    The combat is not fine... it’s ok, kind of I guess, but it’s actually pretty bad if we’re honest! Again doesn’t feel anything like the Destiny we loved and couldn’t wait to play again. As for this whole shader argument, yes it’s a low blow and Bungie are out of line to do it. But seriously who gives a shit about shaders! The game isn’t good and we’ve got players moaning about their nail polish?! Who cares what -blam!-ing colour my armour is! The guns and movement feel shit! Fix that first Bungie!! Then sort out the costumes for the bloody children.

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  • Shaders are a small factor. I included that just because it IS a factor. But I've grown to D2 pvp, it just sucks when you're not in a full fireteam. I've still managed to pull off 1v3 situations w/o super useage. Oh, quick note, whatever Bungie did in a recent update f*'d up the game even more, because frames drop like mad in crucible. Can't even hold my sights on an enemy because the frames just start going wild. It's like PUBG when you're in a 3ft fight with someone in the early phase of the game. D2 just seems to get more and more unoptimized each patch, when at launch it felt like butter on pc.

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  • Edited by vmondude: 12/22/2017 10:27:39 PM
    The PvP is terrible dude. I don’t want to have to hold hands with my team just so i have a chance when I meet the other firing squad, sorry I mean team. Whether I’m in a fireteam or not it’s usually the same. I played the PC beta but didn’t get the launch game (I chose not give bungie more money). The PC version of D2 felt like a completely different game. I don’t understand why it feels so much better and yet bungie cant implement that to the console version. They say they want them to be identical but they’re just not. Like at all!!

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  • PC version has less recoil. That's pretty much it.

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  • It felt miles better. There’s more to it than just recoil, the movement feels a million times better. Recoil doesn’t bother me, but yes the fact there is no recoil helps a lot.

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  • Movement feels better because you're not moving at 30 or less fps.

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  • Only on PC. Everywhere else it is capped at 30fps. Because Bungie in all their genius seem to think that players prefer 4K over 60fps. Movement still felt bad though of PC, it just felt miles better than console.

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