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12/11/2017 2:25:20 PM
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Warframe Is Not Pay To Win.

Warframe is only PARTIALLY pay to skip. You can only pay for gear you earn in the market, which isn't even that good. The best gear are the prime versions of gear, syndicate gear, clan gear and event gear. You can't buy any of that stuff with platinum unless you haggle with someone on trade chat, which is a grind in itself. And don't even get me started with your operator...
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  • Well, when a game makes you be a certain level before allowing you to use real cash to buy a certain weapon/frame that you could just grind/trade for anyways, I wouldn't say it counts as p2w.

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    • People are still on about Warframe? Isn't there a forum out there dedicated to just that?

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      • Cool story bro. Needs more dragons.

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      • There is no universally accepted definition of pay to win. There will never be a unanimous consensus on what games are pay to win because of that. The two leading definitions i've seen are: All games that allow you to purchase in game items that have an effect on gameplay. Games like mass effect 3, LoL, warframe, destiny 2, fortnite Any game that has useful items that are exclusively available to paying players (or a grind that's absurdly long). This is mostly mobile games, some MMOs, and formerly battlefront 2

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        • [quote]You can't buy any of that stuff with platinum unless you haggle with someone on trade chat, which is a grind in itself.[/quote] It's not much of a grind if you dont haggle. WTB (insert item) PM offers. Whatever they say, you take it or if you're on PC you could use warframe.market and skip that.

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        • Name something you can't buy in that game.

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          • No one cares

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          • If one of the ways besides grinding, to get non cosmetic items is through real life $$$, thats pay to win

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            • It's pay to win. However just like with any other pay to win game it's to a certain extent, in this case besides the cosmetics and timed packs paying to win is mostly a waste.

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              • You mean the fact that I could spend $140 to get all the new Primes, new prime accessories that are unavailable to other players, and get 3900 plat in 30 seconds, then grind the new Prime's to get an additional 1500-2000 plat isn't a little pay to win? I've gotten nearly 6000 platinum, all 3 new Primes, and the accessories in the time it took for a player to get 1 set of the primes.

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                • I'm MR17 and I got to say. WF it's not for everyone. Casuals and semi casuals won't like the game.

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                • Edited by CatMan: 12/13/2017 4:59:38 AM
                  Will either way is grindy as -blam!- and boring.

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                • Is this what denial looks like up close?

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                • BAHAHAHA

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                • Edited by f3: 12/11/2017 9:34:08 PM
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                  People have really confused the meaning of "pay-to-win." It's like, just because there's micro transactions, it's automatically [i]pay-to-win.[/i] Someone tell me, what exactly are you "winning"?

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                  • WF is P2W, but it doesn't really matter to me since it's free.

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                    • Pay to win: using real money to buy high level gear in games that automatically puts you at a huge advantage over the games challenges and/ or other players. So.... about how that helps in warframe. -Spend $X on platinum. -Buy a meta prime frame, meta weapons. [b]-Can’t use them because they’re mastery locked.[/b] -Have to play through the game using the frames and weapons you acquire freely playing. -After a long, long while you manage to reach the mastery level needed to use your bought items. -Notice you’ve already acquired most of the parts to build them free or parts for different gear. -Sell unwanted prime gear for platinum. -Realise you never needed to buy platinum in the first place. ????? -Profit.

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                      • P2W doesn't mean you literally spend money to win emprically. it more so means money gives you an advantage. Not that warframe does this badly. it's quite good.

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                      • If you can trade platinum for in game currency then yeah the whole economy is pay to win. Never played the game btw.

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                      • Nope. Not a valid excuse. If battlefront 2 is pay to win warframe is pay to win no matter how small the boosts are like battlefront 3

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