Here's Is the problem, Right now has been nerfed didn't you get the memo? They nerfed it because yet again PVP players brought it to Bungies attention. PVP players must have creamed their pants when they got validated by Bungie saying there was a bug. problem is yet again it was just right for PVE but not right for PVP, PVP wins , PVE dies a little bit more

I feel like any player who says that weapon made pvp fun is a total casual scrub. The patch on tuesday actualy made pvp much more balanced specialy HC in console then the lens broke pvp. Laser tag gets old really fast. I normaly due pvp milestone 3x but i did my hunter and called it a day till they fix pvp. Its absurd.

everyone who uses this gun in pvp is trash

Of course anything will be OP. You just haven't realized yet that you are (literally) playing the most watered down game out in 2017. Anything can be OP in this game with a 0.1% increase lol Edit: I can't believe how gullible gamers are today. This was created so gamers would stick around a dying game. They had nothing to offer other then for PvP gamers that are way too easy to sucker. This is PvP gamers today.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTUQyEr-sg0 [b]You guys are way too easy lol[/b] What else were they going to do knowing how they been lying a lot about this game and getting caught doing it with the player base plummeting? I found this interesting... [b]BEH0LDiTzSAM[/b][quote]Prometheus Lens is the best thing that has happened to D2 PVP Honestly this is the most fun I've had in D2 PVP since launch. I'm actually doing consistently well despite everyone using this gun as I can use my actual skill to overcome multiple enemies as I can kill them fast enough that they can't just teamshot/ have enough time to run to a teammates aid to start shooting me whilst I'm still attacking someone else. Further reinforces how bad the current D2 meta is on its fixation with slow time to kills thinking that will lead to balance, when the reality is the opposite as it leads to teamshotting in an attempt to reduce that, which just removes any point to having game skill. TTK on all guns should be halved Still terrible though when you're against a 4 man fireteam obviously on comms, but against 4 randoms as a solo player I can shred[/quote] [b]KicknNmesTaknAss[/b][quote]Prometheus lens is the greatest thing to happen in D2 Crucible. Spawning into Crucible today and seeing everyone firing lasers at each other is the most fun I've ever had in D2 Crucible. Seriously, turn this into a game type. Give us OP versions of Cold heart and the lens and make it a red vs blue kinda thing. Hell, you could turn OP weapons into an entire event. Imagine all the weapon foundries coming together to showcase their latest and greatest. They want us to test them in the Crucible only to find out they're completely OP. Winning foundry could sell a balanced version of the weapon. Anyways, I get why it's getting a nerf, but Crucible has never been more fun and it'll be sad to see it go.[/quote] These guys working together to hype this Bungie... Is this cheap move your best move to try to keep a player base that is plummeting around?

As I said in other forum posts and I'll say it here: if you're having fun with Prometheus Lens in PvP, then you had no business complaining about shotties in Crucible in D1 * P E R I O D *. Additionally if the fast pace and time-to-kill and solo engagements have made PvP exciting right now you have no business defending the whole "team kill method of 4v4 > 6v6 chaos" because Prometheus Lens is making it less of a team kill and more of an individual kill-fest. I think that isn't getting discussed enough and needs to be really slammed on the table in Bungie's face and be asked: if the player base is having fun because of Prometheus Lens being bugged, what does does this tell you about the core of PvP in Destiny 2 whether its the reliance on team kills, to primaries to specials. Additionally, and more importantly, where are all of the "white~knights" that have defended the PvP of D2? Hmm? Suddenly all sides of the spectrum are having fun because there isn't a need for team kills, its fast paced, there are players in it vs long ques and technically the playing field is level because everyone pretty much has it but those who praised D2 before this are no where to be found and are mysteriously mum on how these changes have made it fun again? When this gets patched up we're all back to Bungie being like the NFL as the new "no fun league". We'll be back to stale, slow paced action relying on team kills and team strategy. And then as the arguments go back to square one people will go "but D2 PvP > D1 PvP". Prometheus Lens has shown oddly unintentionally that PvP in D2 is flawed and broken and it took a broke weapon to prove it to the whole playerbase.

I disagree.It ruined the crucible because no one uses anything else and the Prometheus Lens is op

Are u serious? This gun is a KD killer! I hate this gun and anyone who thinks that this "LASER" weekend is fun does not give a flying rip about stats making them a scrub. This is some bullshit when I die from behind cover because the raidious of area effect is that big, its annoying!. Beyond annoying! Infuriating! I'm a decent player and this gun is the icing on the cake as to me deleting this game off my Xbox because its cancer!

[i][quote]Anyways, I get why it's getting a nerf, but Crucible has never been more fun and it'll be sad to see it go.[/quote][/i] Agree. I presume the salt is coming from the "higher skill" folks worried about their KD? Seems like we have some data that suggest perhaps that the crucible hardcore may actually prefer slower TTK, which goes against the conventional wisdom of many that think that slower TTK benefits the "casual". Interesting.

I could not agree more. I know my clan, my friends, and my favorites streamers. Have had more fun this weekend in crucible than any other weekend. The pusssies that complain about this OP weapon are probably also the same pusssies that complain about boring stale crucible. The hypocrisy is real.

This is the WORST THING POSSIBLE BUNGIE!!!!!!!!!! Crucible totally broken, not fun, not a challenge and if you spawn in without this stupid gun that almost every has now you're done. I have yah it's fun for about 5 minutes then it's just a shit show of laser tag. Done with this game until it's fixed ... SERIOUSLY

I'm guessing the people that are complaining heavily about this weapon and talking about balance and skill are the same type of people that got us into this underpowered shit show called Destiny 2 in the first place.

Closest thing to Mayhem since D1! Enjoy it while you can!

If they made it a game mode that didn't count towards normal PvP stats, I wouldn't have a problem with your idea in the least. I have proposed a similar idea multiple times in the forums. They should make a PvP game type like Mayhem that is basically God mode, unlimited ammo, abilities and no health bars. Just ragdoll physics, so people can just go blow the hell out of each other, get up and shoot right back without worrying about stats. That way the people who want OP craziness get their fill of the "power fantasy" and normal crucible can remain balanced for those of us who enjoy playing to win.

So all you people fight for player choice yet everyone is running with this gun now. What a bunch of hypocrites.