It's bad because you crucible players cried for 3 years about everything that killed you.
1. Vex mythoclast
2. Ice breaker
3. Firebolts
4. Acrbolts
5. Every damn super
6. Shotguns
7. Snipers
8. Fusions
9. Even the damn nlb got a nerf
All because you people can't accept when you were outplayed. Simple. You made your bed now we all have to lie in it.
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Edited by ClovenTrack620: 11/24/2017 1:38:25 AMohhhh cmon who actually cried about fusion rifles in D1😉🙄🙄 good try though
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Thorn don't forget thorn. I mean God forbid you do a quest that was hard for a hunter before a third class was added. Get the gun kill things with it and then get it gets nerfed because not everyone had it. Wahh it killed me. Wahh it two shot me. Wahh I can't get it. Well butter cup grow up.
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I never made a Nerf post in my life, and I'm not sure if you were playing at launch of d1, but go take a look at a mythlocast video from back then... It was much too much... And they hardly ever listen to players, IDK why it's a negative change the players are to blame... Never ever once did I see someone complain about tripmines being sticky nades
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Oh Don't get me started on trip mines that one really P'ss me off! Used to love unicorning people.
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Vex was nerfed immediately before it had a chance to be exploited and it was the owners of those first ones that asked for the nerf
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Lol no, just no. It was the people being killed by it. I remember the posts.
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[quote]I never made a Nerf post in my life, and I'm not sure if you were playing at launch of d1, but go take a look at a mythlocast video from back then... It was much too much... And they hardly ever listen to players, IDK why it's a negative change the players are to blame... Never ever once did I see someone complain about tripmines being sticky nades[/quote] Congrats,majority of the rest have made a post though
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I'm not sitting here agreeing with every decision ever made, just simply pointing out that a lot of the issues people had (not anyone particular btw, just in general.... We all seen the posts) have been addressed at the sake of the game play in general.
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Yep now look where we at every person got the same weapon same perks. I doubt bungie will add a luck in the chamber max range better devils hand cannon if they did the community ask for a nerf big time.
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This.
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Yup! Pretty much the pvp community has destroyed this game, because they couldn’t except the fact that they were being out played.
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Why are you blaming the players - blame Bungie for not making a balanced and competitive pvp experience...
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This is their attempt to make it balanced based on feedback from the whiners. We want more primary gun play they said, we get 2 primary weapons. We want less ability spam they said, every super takes longer to charge. We want less 1 hit kill weapons, snipers and shotguns get moved to power. This is all direct feedback.
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The above is all true and the above are just a few of the things that made D1 game great. I have even seen a nerf request for the antiop d guy basically said nerf antiop d or put more sub machine guns in that compete. Translation : I just got killed buy antipop d, I dont have antiop d must spoil the game for anyone with antiop d
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And in every case there were legitimate issues - the supers weren't the issue - it was the boost to the supers with the kills that made good players impossible to beat...you'd go on a 5 kill streak with your trials weapons (which can only be matched by other trials weapons) and start zapping people with your super within 3 minutes of gameplay...I don't know about you, but dying constantly is not very fun...
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Good players will always come out on top even if there where no supers and you had the same weapon. The problem lies with the match making these players should not be matched with people that are less skilled.
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The were only legitimate issues because they refused to separate pve and pvp balance, and now the whole game suffers.
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[quote]All because you people can't accept when you were outplayed. [/quote] i get that, but sometimes you get mad because you were killed while on a 15 kill streak or whatever
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And???? That's merit to whine on the forums is it? Pathetic
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Better to whine and complain than to just leave and play something else...we could just do that, too...
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And this is where that gets you. Instead of just accepting defeat and being a decent person.
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If the defeat was due to something I could control, then I will accept it gladly - but when you slice someone with a sword and they are still standing and blinking all over the screen, then yes - I will complain...every...single...time...that's not defeat - those are issues with the game itself that need to be fixed...
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That has absolutely 0 to do with balance, that's networking. Congratulations for staying on topic.
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And that is supposed to excuse watering down D1 since the nerfs affected both PVP and PVE? Let me use two words to get people riled up: Titan Sunbreaker
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Sunbreaker was overpowered, anyone who says otherwise is bonkers. They were almost impossible to kill.