Man I seriously doubt anyone would disagree with you at this point. Destiny 2 is a flop. I've even started playing warframe because of how bad destiny 2 is.

Yea this game SUCKS and Bungie HATES fun👎🏻

This is--and always has been ---the basic gameplay loop for this game. This game--at its heart---is about loot, and all loot based games are repetitive ("grindy") If you're not liking this, then this may not be the game for you.

I was going to wait until the 2 dlcs were over before saying I'm done. But after trying to find something fun to do in D2 and just getting bored, I gave up. It's just not fun anymore.

I have to agree. The original story line was great, but short lived. I've cleared every planet and moon and everything feels rhetorical at this point. The Leviathan raid is so overly complicated that I've given up on even trying it anymore. When Trials of the Nine dropped I was excited, then kicked in the nunahs when I kept getting a message saying there weren't enough players. Given my work shift, by the time I play, everyone is either already at work or in bed so i'm hosed, especially since it won't match you up with other players, like it did in Destiny 1. As far as the new tower goes; i love the lay out, however, it would be great if there were three fast travel points so I'm not spending my time running to and fro. Overall, I've enjoyed Destiny 2 for about three days then it was bleh. There is only so much grinding one can do. Without access to Trials of The Nine, Nightfall Strikes (which the time limit thing sucks, by the way), and the Leviathan raid being overly complicated, honestly, I feel cheated.

I feel pretty ripped off after seeing all the autoaim/bulletmagnetism, the build in cheats that come on pc, the lack of advancement from 265 onwards (if you compare dmg to 305 plvl) and the insane amount of waiting to progress every week for 10-15plvls. To be fair ive enjoyed playing destiny 2 on all 3 classes but it took me like 60hours to get all three to 293-295 wich is in terms of an rpg just sad, id have to play more in cod mw2 back in the day just to get my golden deagle and that game didnt have autoaim for the mentaly impaired. Crucible and trails are a joke, the meta are always the same gear in ever fireteam not even different with other classes, the radar is utterly overpowerd showing enemys half a map away when they havent even been spottet yet and adding bullet magnetism to MKB is the worst decision bungie could have made, the game feels like i could type up a bot and let it run trails solo because the game is giving you everything so you wont have to do it yourself. The raid is similar to the crucible expirience, there are people 2manning calus soloing all of the entrances and abusing EVERY SINGLE GLITCH WITHOUT PUNISHMENT. The loot system is horrendous never seen anything this bad yet, there are plenty other games that do it 100x better and bungie just sticks with thier casual approach of weekly milestones, i know you have to make money on bright engrams aswell but for the love of this franchise please get a system that encourages specific loot like diablo with loot 2.0 did ... PLEASE REMOVE THE RADARHACK AND AIMHACK, were gamers pvp is not enjoyable when you just stomp scrubs who dont even know about this shit or face people who know about this shit and start shootong before you even cross thier paths. its not fun and other gamedevelopers even implement 2-3 anticheat systems at once to stop people from hacking while bungie considers it as part of the game?! i wont buy the dlc if this does not change especialy after that devtalk with pcgamer were they basically said hey weve added a few encounter, 5 new missions, a new boss, survival mode and 2 strikes. Ive seen some meems that actually tell the truth about this game and they are not realy amusing. DS3 has 2 dlc for 15€ each wich took at least half of the original games runtime EACH while bungie creates some updates and calls them dlc, if you cant make the game good dont bother and give it to developers who care about the game not the money because we are the ones spending our time and money and we dont want cashgrabs. //Edit: Sorry for bad grammar not my main language

I find myself only playing PvP. Before this game I never played PvP. I'm not that good, and something about real people killing me just kind of pisses me off. But... There really is nothing to do in this game. I'd like to buy another game and enjoy it but what new game? CoD? It's still Activision doing Activision crap. Don't want to support them more because they -blam!-ed this game up. Battlefront 2? No. No no. Not falling into that trap. I just want a game that's sole propose isn't to monetize as much of the game as they can. I want to spend $60 and not be badgered for spending more money in game. Is that possible anymore? -blam!-! Don't know where I was going with this but, Jesus, I may say -blam!- video games altogether and wait for the crash. These companies won't stop until it implodes.

Is fking Destiny if you want other game just play something else.

[quote]KEEP UPVOTING AND BUMPING SO EVERY GUARDIAN POSSIBLE CAN SEE THIS BEFORE THE 5TH!!!!!!!!! Contact your support number. Tell them you're receiving an error. (The person who paid for the game must be signed in) Tell them you want a full refund for the game you can't even play. They'll contact their "specialist" wait on hold. They will then tell you they will speak with developers. Reiterate you bought content not released yet and do not wish to play. It won't be instant. But you'll get it. They will take your number and email. This is confirmed to work. Edit: 11/17/17. FULL REFUND RECEIVED Edit 1: psn phone: 1-800-345-7669 Xbox: 800-469-9269 I'm not a pc guy but that community knows pretty much everything. Edit 3: ANSWER your 1800 number incoming calls. Edit 4: Confirmed to work on psn Proof: https://imgur.com/a/f9cU1 EVERYONE CALLING PLEASE LET ME AND EVERYONE KNOW YOUR EXPERIENCE.[/quote]