I did not expect them to release D2 so obviously unfinished. $100 bungie and this is what you put out. Shameful

If you are a real software developer then watch "GDC 2015 - Destiny, six years in the making" and you know why "going back to D1" is not only not possible but also the reason why D2 was developed as a MVP ..

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The Witcher 3 goty edition is downloading as we speak, 4 hrs a week is all D2 is good for. Bungie are out of touch with their player base by a long margin.

I'm not so sure that Bungo's as worried as everybody wants to believe. A 50% drop off in sales and a loss of over two million players would be catastrophic to most games, but Destiny 2's scummy and manipulative game design will more than likely ensure that they land in the black. I'm not defending Bungo here by any means, I'm just being realistic. Despite lower sales than the first game, Destiny 2, unfortunately, still managed to sell quite a lot of units. Couple this with the myriad of players who've undoubtedly purchased microtransactions—and will continue to purchase microtransactions—and the fact that they know that everybody will return for the subsequent DLC releases, and you'll find that Bungo's not worried. They're [b]f[/b]ucking laughing. They've found a way to get people to buy a low cost, low quality, totally sub par product, and all of its stripped away content at a higher price than a full price game.

I tried so hard to like D2 but it's just so -blam!-ing boring. Luke Smith is an absolute idiot. VoG and TTK doesn't compensate for the pile of shit D2 is

Luke is a class A moron. Point blank. That guys personality is just disgusting. He’s just vile.

Does bungie know how much money they lost? D2 was a fail, bungie made their money based on D1 when D3 comes out there will be lots of un-bought D3 games due to the failure of D2 and D2 cant be fixed anytime soon. It would take years to decode this game. R.I.P D2 your developer's messed up hard.

At this point it isn't about Bungie suddenly making all the changes the community wants all at once, even this community understands these things don't happen overnight. But its about acknowledgement and acceptance, just hearing Bungie make a comment, one single comment that they intend to do something would be nice.

Exactly. Its way too far gone. Maybe they should have listened to the real feedback given during the beta in July and all of the idiots saying “its an old build! Things will be fine at launch! We dont have our light yet!” should have stfu and been honest about that garbage ass beta.

Honestly, unless you know their codebase, you can only speculate. We have no idea how each system they created correlate/inherits with each other. We can’t really make any assumptions at all unless we actually work and code for Bungie. Also, I can tell you now that they’re not panicking. You make it sound as if they have to make every change in one go and push a patch update to each platforms to see how it works. Nope. If they’re like every other software dev company out there, they have/do two things: - they have a source tree of some sort - they probably use Agile/scrum With that being said, there’s nothing wrong with them creating another branch on whatever source tree they’re using and working on fixes/improvements there. There’s nothing stopping them from making a build on said branch and having QA check it out. And they’re probably use Agile. What big software dev company doesn’t now days. This is why they’re not scared. You’re only scared in programming if you’re overwhelmed. Agile prevents that. Each feature is probably assigned to a sprint, once it’s done. There’s QA and regression and on to the next one. Really not trying to attack you and really not tryna to say you’re wrong. Also, really not defending Bungie’s back or anything, but with you being a software dev, you should know and understand this since you actually have the knowledge and experience. Also, this is coming from someone who does project management in a game dev company. Even though it’s a really small one, the idea is still the same.

Some of the decisions are just so odd. People were loving the changes to Y3, it felt like the game had finally reached its potential. Strikes had a purpose with the strike specific loot introduced in Y2 and then the bounties were added last December. The raids had gear with perks to help benefit you in the raid. You were able to purchase faction weapons and everything wasn't left to rng. Most of all they took away options. I can't pick a strike from the director screen. I can't redo old missions unless Ikora thinks it's cool. I'm forced to play random roll crucible with gametypes. I can't just join a playlist of clash or control. My biggest issue right now is the lack of options.

Destiny 2's code is not a complete redesign. Most of the code is the same as Destiny prior to the TTK. Pretty much everything was streamlined for time and speed. No more many calculations for weapons as they have set numbers. No more networking issues in the crucible with less players. The graphics engiine didn't change. Even many of the playable areas are like reskins of Destiny one. The physics are the same. Raise a hill here, lower a bit there. Add on top of that that most of the visual effects are comparable to destiny one prior to the rise of iron. Thats why you don't see armour effects and even fancy background effects like was in rise of iron. Its why the game also maxs out at 30fps on consoles. They could have easily put a null/void placeholder in for the emote and replaced it once it was fixed, instead they cancelled trials and let the glitch go on for the rest of the game. Whats really wrong with D2 is the lack of farming. Any farming. Farming required exploration and encounters. Farming for materials and weapons as well as collecting shards and glimmer. Destiny 2 made everything so easy, that it was rediculously easy. Need a public event?, instead of riding around in search of one, all you have to do is fast travel anywhere and your there. Destiny 2 was meant to be a casual game for casual players. Not a MMo crossbred like D1. So, they got their wish and all the criers from D1 who thought it was to hard should be happy campers. The real test of D2 is when it comes out on PC's and we get to disect the code and see exactly what engine its working on. Thats when we get to see if Bungie has been honest or if the entire Destiny community has been played.

On the plus side, they'll probably get it right for Destiny 3 ....when it's released on PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox One Two... & PC v2