Oh -blam-, we never left VOG did we...? 😓

[quote]Destiny 2 is a Vex simulation[/quote] I sincerly give you credits for your well constructed and explained theory, also if I have to say that all these [i]"We are into a Vex simulation!"[/i] or [i]"We are blocked into a Vex loop!"[/i] theories are gonna annoying me... I lost the count of how may of these Topics I've read so far. So... first of all, remember this: the game, in many ways, constantly tells us that the Vex can't simulate us, the Guardians, the Light, the Darkness, and everything is considered para-causal or acausal. There is no way they can do such a thing, no way. And the reason for this is very simple: if they could do such a thing, if they could simulate everything in the Destiny world, Destiny would have no sense at all. So, said that, let's start. [quote]The Vex have been known to run multiple simulations. In The grimoire cards for the Vex (assuming grimoire cards are still cannon) [u]the Vex run simulations of lots of things[/u]. It’s even mentioned that the researchers who found the simulations believed themselves to be simulations.[/quote] True, but they are all simulations of things they fully understand. Things that they can calculate and duplicate in their simulations. They can simulate themselves into a simulation 'cos, of course, they can fully understand what they are and how they work. [quote]The Vex cannot simulate light. But they understand it is powerful. Throughout the Destiny 2 quests and adventures, we get notes that the Vex refer to the light and guardians as those “which cannot be simulated.” I know you’re probably thinking, “Why do you think this is a simulation if they can’t simulate light?” Three reasons: 1. [u]The Vex know light is powerful.[/u] They could easily assume that the light could give power even to the extent that surviving guardians to push back the Cabal. Even if they calculated only a 1% chance the traveler and guardians could win against the Red Legion, [u]they would still have it simulated[/u].[/quote] Okay, this is the point: we are into a simulation and our Guardian, in this simulation, get back his Light. Not Power: LIGHT. We get back OUR LIGHT. No matter if you wanna say that we get back POWER, it's not: we get back LIGHT. And this can't happen into a simulation. This because, again, Vex, yes, they do know that Light is powerfull, but they don't know, they don't understand, HOW IT WORKS. They would never be able to calculate and simulate what our Guardian could do with his Light. So that's why it can't be a simulation. [quote]2. We don’t call it “light level.” In Destiny 2, our level (the one that currently goes to 305), is only referred to as our “Power Level.” Something the Vex would call it to make light more estimable. And, 3.There aren’t any game modes where Power levels are compared to each other (no light level advantage multiplayer). The Vex don’t understand “light level.” They just know guardians get stronger and that their source is “light.”[/quote] Remember this: when you do theories or lore, do never, never, never, confuse "lore" with "game mechanics". Never. [quote]The limitations of the Vex. The Vex know a lot…but not everything. [u]The Vex can only simulate what they know about[/u]. Here are a few holes that may be evidence: 1. [u]The Vex probably didn’t know about Efrideet. She’s never mentioned[/u]. 2. [u]The Vex didn’t know you became and Iron lord. That’s why you’re never referred to as such[/u]. 3. [u]The Vex Didn’t know about all the exotic armor and weapons the guardians might have. They simulated that the Cabal would destroy most of what we have to simulate a worst-case scenario for the guardians. But they couldn’t simulate what remain after the Red Legion attacked[/u][/quote] They don't know about Lady Efrideet but they do know about Lord Saladin? How? And why? And yeah, okay, they don't know about we've became Iron Lords but they know about the old Iron Lords and of the Iron Banner? Again, how, why? How could you say or explain this? There is no mention about the Iron Lords went in contact with the Vex... And about the Exotics, what should that mean? We have new Exotics in Destiny 2, never seen before like the Cold Heart, how could they simulate something that they've never seen before? [quote]1. The simulation starts when our guardian “returns” to the tower. This is actually when we entered the simulation. There’s no telling where we were or what we were doing just that we were away when the tower was attacked. [/quote] Or maybe because there is no need to tell us such a thing? We were probably in mission, or in patrol, or whatever... also, you do not enter into a simulation. Vex simulations are so perfect that you do not even realize you're into a simulation. Ishtar Collective discovered that 'cos they were examinating the Vex that was simulated them... [quote]2. The first thing the vanguard notes is that the satellites were all down. This is unlikely. Rasputin would have sent a message somehow beforehand…but the Vex didn’t include Rasputin in the simulation because…[/quote] Absolutely not. Rasputin does not give a s*** about us and the Tower. [quote]4. We break the simulation when we visit the dark forest and enter the portal to the Shard of the Traveler. When the Traveler chose us to regain our powers, we couldn’t be accurately simulated, so the Vex assume we go through a portal, and then comeback out with more power. It is only in the areas around the Shard that we get references to lore not mentioned in the simulation (such as Efrideet, Toland, etc). [/quote] No, wait... what? So, we entered into a simulation coming back to the Tower, but we broke it when we went into the forest that was not simulated, we got our Light back (that Vex don't understand and they can't simulate) and when we came back with our Light we went back into the Simulation? ... [quote] 5. Osiris. Osiris is a known Warlock who has studied the Vex and who is believed to also be tampering in the Vex Network. He’s mentioned in the adventure “Deep Conversation” as sending his regards. As I put all this together, I wasn’t thinking about the fact that the two main sources I mention as “outside the simulation” are Osiris and Rasputin. Osiris (or rather, Curse of Osiris) is the first DLC coming to Destiny 2. Rasputin (or what I assume is Rasputin) is the second DLC coming to Destiny 2. Coincidence? If my theory stands correct, I think not.[/quote] Totally not... I'm sorry bro, fascinatin theory, but absolutely wrong.

Vex can't simulate guardians because of their paracausal nature. Debunked

When we were thrown from the tower by gaul the vex recovered our body and is keeping it alive and running a false reality in our minds(i.e. the matrix) to see if and how we would go about defeating the red legion. If we can defeat the cabal then we are of use to them if not we become waste. This could explain why modes have no selection and everything is limited. Reduced gear and limited abilities is worst case scenario. If we prevail in this environment then the vex know we are a viable option to defeat the red legion. I feel out of any of the enemies we have the vex would most likely become an ally. We have seen all their secrets and their main goal is to aquire knowledge. Why wouldnt they ally or become friendly with the one thing they dont understand. The friendly Harpy story mission on nessus would help guardians actually see a vex as a friend. No other enemy group has ever been a friendly that i can recall.

BUT what if REAL LIFE is a vex simulation? Here are a couple of points one could see as proof: -existence is pain -nothing matters -life is pointless -time is not real -the ancient pyramids were built with vex technology -space is not constant/real

'Reality' is a Simulation. Ask Elon Musk.