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Edited by Ve7nom:
10/21/2017 6:37:26 AM
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Bungie, you REALLY need to start the communication train about your plans for this game!
It's getting out of hand Bungie, everyone I play with thinks you've either given up on this game or you're just straight up incapable of developing it properly.
From content not even worth completing more than once to re-skins to handfuls of features that were in D1 just straight up missing from this apparant sequel, from shallow subclass trees to having zero purpose to actually getting loot, other than for infusing into the weapon or armour piece you already have, to nothing new added or innovated on.
My 10th better devils was exactly the same as my 1st (I thought you were doing something about that? I mean that IS what you said in an interview 3 months before the game actually released)
From awful, straight up garbage match making in PVP, to the lack of choices a player has when playing Crucible. The STILL bad connection issues (yes I have great wired internet) and being shot through walls or shots not registering at all, to hit registration being as dumb as Forest Gump.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING BUNGIE? WHERE ARE YOU? And what are you doing about the game that SO many people love the universe of?
It's time to speak up!
EDIT: Anyone notice how Cozmo doesn't comment on threads like this, but replies to Mass shader dismantling or how many Cabal drop pod deaths you've had threads?
EDIT: So I just woke up and read the weekly update, I think it’s safe to say I’m not logging into Destiny anymore. I can’t justify spending my time on something that’s just not rewarding anymore. I hope many of you follow suit. What’s that phrase? ‘Don’t hate the player..........’
EDIT: There's an interview released today from the BBC from a tour at the Bungie studios, here's a quote from it.
[b]"Absolutely we took criticisms of the original Destiny to heart," Jason Jones, co-founder of Bungie, tells Newsbeat.
"We knew it had amazing parts... but we also saw the real mistakes we made."
In a rare interview inside their Seattle offices, in the USA, he says the experience shaped how they tackled Destiny 2.
"It was stuff we already knew but it was a sharp and clear message from our community - they expected better."[/b]
And here's the full article if anyone wants to read it http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41667810/behind-the-scenes-at-bungie-making-destiny-2-and-beyond
EDIT: So grinding for Bright ENDgames, I mean Engrams is the new end game??? I’m a little lost for words, with increased XP boost on our 1st 3 bright Engrams is anyone actually gonna play the same old content after that? Finding it hard to see the future o Destiny as a positive thing honestly!
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4 RepliesBut remember, we're just a loud minority of the player base. They don't care about the forums because we're not enough of the players. They'll be glad if we leave and just stop playing. Right? Right Bungie?
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1 ReplyI better hear something from Bungie this coming twitch livestream or this game will die.
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1 ReplyI had 230 deadOrbit tokens I wanted get that all armor set and I get "THE SAME GLOVES!!- 7 TIMES" wtf bungie? I finish public events I get 1token, I finish heroic event and i get 1TOKEN!!! Wtf Bungie? I play crucible where I spend 5-10min plus our team wins and I get 1 TOKEN!!!!!! Wtf Bungie? JUST FIX THE GAME AT ONCE!!!!!!!! I really regret buying Destiny.
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1 ReplyOh it's funny I was reading this and the weekly update came out and it doesn't seem like they acknowledged anything that's being complained about so that's cool. You would think big posts with 800 to 2000 up votes would be noticed but I guess not.
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2 RepliesI have a full clan and when this game was first released there was a steady 40 to 50 people online playing at first. With the disappointment on every aspect of the end game my nightly active clan members have dwindled to 10 or fewer every night and finding new active players has become nearly impossible and definitely not worth the time. I was really excited to see what improvements they made, now I'm just upset at myself for buying the edition that came with a season pass.
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1 ReplyEdited by A KOOL POP TART: 10/20/2017 12:20:31 AM[quote]You are probably asking, “What do we get for completing it?” Glad you asked. You will receive a new emblem for each Raid Challenge you complete. You are also guaranteed a raid drop for that encounter. You have some time to start thinking about what extra challenges lie ahead. Let the speculating begin![/quote] Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, an RNG emblem AND an RNG Item Drop? Forget obtaining an Arcwing or Valkyr Prime, I gotta get me that emblem......
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1 ReplyI know,right? Another TWAB that just ignores the issues and tries to make us watch montage "movies".
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15 RepliesWhen the lead dev says he still thinks fixed rolls are the right idea, and that the game will become a collection game, you know you're screwed....
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9 RepliesEdited by l Beanie l: 10/19/2017 10:56:35 PMThey're at twitchcon tomorrow doing a live Q&A. Hopefully people put some good questions to them.
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9 RepliesThey should, but they won’t. They’re firmly encased in their bubble, shielded from any criticism constantly barraged upon them. That tweet from one Bungie developer decrying toxicity and Luke Smith’s latest interview reinforces that point. Even Deej’s TWAB a couple weeks ago even further explains it. They’re out of touch with their audience and can care less. At least for now... The upcoming DLC, The Curse of Osiris, will be the 1st real test of D2’s longevity. If that fails to sell well, get players playing again, and/or retains them, then you’ll see Bungie hit panic mode. That’s then their Ward of Dawn pops, and they’ll [i]finally[/i] engage their audience. But that does [b]not[/b] mean you should stop the outrage. Keep it up, keep it going. You have that right, utilize it to the fullest. For those that are coming up with new concepts and such, don’t stop. Keep the ideas flowing. Sooner or later, Bungie will have to listen. Then, you’ll be prepared.
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5 RepliesIf Bungie was honest and transparent they'd say "We hear you loud and clear we're just ignoring you because you'd be mad if we said that we took everything Destiny had done right and are hiding it behind paywalls we call DLCs, we'll also fix things you don't like and integrate them through DLCs so it looks like we're the good guys and act like we love our fans but -blam!- you guys give us money for the shit we should have given you lol"
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3 RepliesDéjà vu, This time you people actually should have known better.
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11 RepliesHere's what people (you) need to understand. Bungie has addressed they're brainstorming ideas. For cruciable and end game. Brainstorming would mean they're not exactly sure what the solution is. But they've addressed it. And if you played destiny 1 from day 1 you know they'll correct things. Another thing we need to understand, like it or not, is that major changes will not come until the PC community give their feedback. Surely it will be the same. I have issues that are probably the same as yours trust me. But they need that feedback. They catered this game to be an e sport. And they've failed miserably. They update after PC community gives feedback. Do they can issue an update across all platforms. Or platform specific if something is functioning at the PC level correctly but not on the consoles
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18 RepliesPlans? We already know, which makes it even more of a joke. Follow the D1 DLC, it will be the exact same. Actually, it may be less considering it looks like no raid in the first DLC. Got us!
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1 ReplyEdited by DaJuan Hoonoks: 10/19/2017 8:04:34 PMSo to me it's one of 2 things. Bungie is about to split from Destiny just like they did from Halo, or they are just so out of touch with reality they think the people complaining on the forums are a loud minority and the silent majority overwhelmingly loves Destiny 2.
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5 RepliesThis is a big issue that no one person at Bungie can respond to so don't fault Cozmo or Deej from not responding. The decision to communicate on these topics come from the top and a Community Manager that speaks off the top of his/her head would likely be fired. Shaders and other lesser topic are ones that have less risk so can be talked about more freely.
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5 RepliesI don’t mind a reskin if they are building off of a previously gun frame or armor design and adding a few different pieces to distinguish. Simply having the same model with a slightly different stat and same weapon type is garbage. I’d love to see some of those hakke scouts as an autorifle. I’d love it if there weren’t three different types of better devils while there’s no other version of Hakkes awesome Prabina-D. I wish there were more Viest Scouts available. Some blue, green and white armor and gear still often looks better than legendary gear. Why? Make some of that stuff legendary. Less gun/armor mods than their should be. Would be nice if we had armor mods that did more than just reduce recoil or reload. Would be nice if there were exotic perks that have more slots or reduced flinch or whatever. Seriously. And where are my ophidian aspects? Take starfire protocol back.
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2 RepliesYup. People on my friends list, people i meet via LFG sites and randoms i meet up with all echo the same thoughts on this community. Just about everyone i talk to cannot understand what went wrong.
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4 RepliesYeah it's gotten way past the point of silence. My clan consists of some of the most dedicated players and with the release of the Prestige Raid yesterday, many have just made the choice to find a different game until they have reason to come back. These are the kind of people who have spent tons of money buying Silver, Collector's Editions, various items from the Bungie store and many other places. These people stuck with Destiny through all its highs and lows and right now, they are losing faith that anything is going to change. Time to address your shortcomings Bungie, and stop being vague. These people want real answers not, "were looking into it". That won't cut it.
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2 RepliesThe worst thing a developer can do is keep their audience in the dark. Communication is such a big deal, we don’t wanna hear “we hear you all”. Bitch tell me what you’re looking into changing, what do you hear? Are making changes for th next dlc or the following one? Is it so complicated that it could take until year 2 of Destiny 2? If you want a good vibe from your community communication is key. Let us know you’re even trying, if you stay mute then all we can do is take it as you don’t give a fuc&, and that’s what a lot of people think. And honestly, if you’re not gonna make changes because if xyz, then fine, but let us know. Never understood this in the work and place, relationship, friends, communication is the key to success and apparently you as grown up adults don’t realize this.
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2 RepliesOne thing that is also puzzling is their back patting about the amount of players that have reached the level cap. If that was their goal, they should have just made it to where you got to the level cap after the first mission. "Look everyone hit the level cap! Wow, people must really love this game!" Honestly, if they got rid of light and levels, what difference would it make to the playerbase? Almost none. The same Vandals that take two shots to kill at 10 light take the same amount of shots to kill at 305 light.
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1 ReplyI think that they're going to start communicating after the PC launch. They don't want to talk about all their broken stuff right now, because that could hurt initial PC sales.
