I don't think it would fix anything but would just lead to a quicker death because it's making players choose between PvP or PvE. For PvE the big issue is that your fundamentally sucked into Raids for top gear whereas in PvP you're sucked into Trials. Even without doing either yet for D2, I already knew in D1 time investment was easier in Trials than it was for Raids. Really the problem is that, much like exotics in the game, nothing stands out as overwhelmingly enjoyable or fun. I think Queen's Wrath and it's dungeons really introduced a good way for good loot that wouldn't require the time issue as Raids, only a fireteam but still demanded a good set of skills in beating Skolas. There were ways to cheat Crota and VoG but the simple straightforwardness of Skolas actually made it a bigger challenge for some players (and yes for the record I did beat all 3 and found I needed more communication and coordination in Skolas than the others). Getting legendaries easier is nice but at the end of the day, there are only so many legendaries players will rely on; the randomness of perks in D1 made it where a usually non~selected weapon could become viable because of perks. In PvP the problem is more obvious with it being a showcase of MIDA, Trials weapons, antiope, sword, shotgun and that's it. You can say there are more weapons and it's true but it's really a short list! I think the only weapon I was surprised getting killed by in Iron Banner was Skyburner's Oath and, ironically, they must've been as surprised that we killed each other with that weapon. We're not at the absolute cookie cutter stage on loadouts but we're kind of there and that's disappointing really. I'd love to hope and wish D2 has easy fixes but the way the game is laid out and designed, I think any fixes to retain player engagement and support were far harder than in D1.If a really good FPS or multiplayer ever makes its way to consoles or even one of them, I think that'd kill it for Bungie and Destiny. Frankly put Destiny is right now the best of a worse situation: we so wish it could be better but there's not much of anything else out there to directly compete with Destiny and I don't think Bungie recognizes this situation let alone acknowledge it. If a "true successor" for Destiny ever emerged by a studio that players felt positive about, that massive abandonment would be the only way the point would be driven home for Bungie and, until then, I don't see them changing their ways or direction.

The game design is to not have separation though. They want you to be able to enter a raid/strike/etc and get a gun, think that guns cool and try it out in PVP. There is a division in the game where people want you to take sides. With the community you have to be a PVPer or a PVEer. Reality is, you can enjoy both. I don't want separation. I want better balance. I want that raid scout to be a viable option when I enter PVP. I want that Lord Salad handcannon to be good in strikes.

The more like Battlefield and CoD this becomes, the less interested in it i will be. All they need is to make it like destiny 1 instead of whatever the hell abomination this is.

PVE - As various, and beyond what Destiny 1 was. PVP - Halo Style go in with predefined loadouts with weapons in fixed locations on the map that drop post rewards that you can use in PVE. Example. Press (triangle) to pick up scout rifle. *Drops pulse rifle, picks up scout instead.* Thats it. That's all they need to do.

They won't do it. It's a big part of the game to them. The ability to play any part of the game and have everything work the same way. It makes sense, and I understand it. The problem is that they can't make that decision and then try to make competitive pvp and fulfilling pve at the same time. If they just left pvp as a casual add on, I'd be happy. That's what it was supposed to be anyway. They've decided to take pvp more seriously though, and now pve is suffering. Even worse, they haven't made a decision on which one to put first, and trying to do some middle ground bs is causing both to suffer. They just gotta choose one. Decide what this game is and go from there.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but destiny’s end game is getting everyone on pvp, the cost associated to pve is huge, making raids and constantly finding ways to keep the minions fulfilled. Yet pvp is a couple of new maps a year and like lemmings they run off the cliff. Look at the complaints about the grind in pve it’s completely gone yet if you want full set of iron banner armour you need to put 18 hours a day for a week hoping it randomly drops before the timer runs out. It’s a complete joke, I don’t really like pvp but destiny 2 pvp is terrible.

We could just have a system where guns all have a mod system that let you customize them to feel really epic in pve but only work off their kinda boring intrinsic perks for PVP....

Nothing personal OP just sayin This has been a no brainer since Y1 and Bungie refuses to do this because it's the easy way out. Hell, look at the sandbox this company has, can you see them wanting to put that kind of effort into this game even though it would help it a lot? When the sandbox came out and said they had there little kids chart that shows them what's used the most and started nerfing the most popular as them "balancing this entire game" That! right their told me that this sandbox doesn't even play their own game. What confirmed it was the last video on the Truth nerf and regen update watching the video and laughing how my 9 year old could put them devs that were on that video to shame, and he only plays games like Rayman, Minecraft, Ratchet and Clank.

Been saying it since vanilla, pvp needs to go!

I think Bungie should be like Warframe and FORGET about the PvP until they get PVE right. PvP is ruining the PVE experience.

It won’t make up for the tremendous lack of content.