The only mistake bungie made was to start over again, Activision Blizzard would not have done this with Warcraft, they just kept on adding to it, people put alot of time into D1 and in D2, that time you spent is no were to be seen, you grind virtually the same exotics, which i like but would have preferred to keep them in the first place and not lose them. D2 is a great game if you have not put time into D1, that most have, that saying D2 is only getting better not worse, people say Bungie do not listen, they do but they are not going to address individual problems and needs of the old faithful. Activision Blizzard has a share value and they will not come out publically and state this and that about a game, this could cause a shift in price in their stock, so from a bussiness point of view they are very smart indeed. Business is for money and bigger things happen to people who come out and effect that. Bungie are trying something with this i am not sure what the motivation is, but i bought the game knowing this so i cannot complain to much as i knew what D1 was like and to be honest i still feel it gave me a ton for the money i spent on it. No film or any other entertainment has give me as much to talk about good or bad and it has occupied my time for the last couple of years. Thanks bungie, keep up the good work, people put me down in my job all the time, do i listen yes, do i take it on board and let it reflect how i do things in the future, maybe, maybe not, either way it is food for thought and that is all it is. On a lighter note i still feel like a NOOB in D2, watch the vid if you want to find out more, ahahaha.

Honestly the majority are little ps4 kiddos bitching and moaning . Play on the pc you’ll enjoy it quite a bit. It’s the same 100 or so people on the forums constantly crying and whining . It’s been that way for years . Check their stats 9/10 they don’t even have a character and their just here to grief . Sad really

whining and moaning about whining and moaning, i don't have time to explain why i don't have time to explain.

Bungie made 'Halo', which made standard, theater mode, big team battles, energy weapons, vehicle hijacking, controllable air and land vehicles, space battles, community fileshares of maps and variants for private or public games, online four man campaigns, and forge. Activision brought standards like, customizable loadouts and subclass perks, realistic graphics, and weapon modifications. Both companies had stories millions remember generations later. "Soap..." "It's the demon"... Somehow, with those accomplishments in their history, people find a way to defend destiny. Destiny, 3 years of reskinning, reselling and nerfing of day 1 content. Thank you to those who boycotted this newest installment. I know its harder to take a stance than follow a crowd and i comend those of you who stood against this trash and demanded more by using your money to speak, the only language companies comprehend. I traded in my preorder for a google play card and havent stopped playing app games. Cellphone games> Destiny franchise.

I wouldn't even bother with the PC version if I were you. Every time a console game has been ported to PC it's been a complete shit show. Unless they had a team working on a PC version separate from the console team you better prepare for a metric ton of bugs, crashes, and issues in general. Not to mention the hackers that'll be all over PvP. Which is why I quit CoD back when Black Ops III dropped. I'd bet money that the month delay isn't because they developed it separate to make sure it runs just as smoothly as the console versions. Bet your sweet Vex Mythoclast that it's to slap on Denuvo so the game can have seizures while you try to play it, outside of the above issues.

[quote]It all honestly looks like a shitshow. I know this forum is notorious for whiners but even so, there's so damn much negative feedback, complaints and suggestions that Bungie and the dev team just aren't addressing at all. That's not great. Of course there's real positive feedback but it seems that's severely outweighed. I absolutely adored Destiny 1 and even the Destiny 2 PC beta, but seeing the torrent of criticism in these forums and on Reddit is starting to make me want to cancel my pre-order for the Digital Deluxe Edition. I know there's a lot of reasons to wait and find out but seeing the evidence that there's so many issues with Destiny 2 that aren't being addressed, why not claim back that £79.99 I spent? I'm sure I can't be the only one slightly put off already.[/quote] So cancel your order then. No one cares what you do.