Okay, so I been using a couple grenade launchers since day one, I currently have wicked sister and flash and thunder. Both of these "heavy weapons" are very much sub par to every other option it seems. Obviously I never created a triple a game but I can tell you that the grenade launchers are less effective and have a tendency to be a waste. I feel that in general they should have more reserve ammo, so that way going through all of your heavy ammo should do similar damage to a rocket launcher going through all it's reserve ammo, the reload times are basically the same. Now flash and thunder styled grenade launchers should be significantly more rewarding for direct impacts, currently it feels like rocket launchers are a better option in every conceivable manner. I really enjoy the idea of grenade launchers especially flash and thunder, it just reminds me of powning casuals in halo. But this whole weapon class needs some love. I don't have either exotic grenade launcher but it seems that people agree they are sub par, and need some small tweeks to make the exotic perks worth while. Tdp IS NOT DPS. These numbers come from the total amount of damage you can do when going through your entire ammo reserves. Obviously your dps isn't going to do you any good if your tdp isn't even within a viable bracket *cough cough* grenade launcher *cough cough* Tdp (total damage potential @ 298 light) weapons were all tested on Nessus ether resupply non heroic event against the servitor for decent raid/strike damage comparison. Berenger's memory (grenade launcher) 6,347 Flash and thunder (grenade launchers) 2,660 Man o'war (liner fusion rifle) 11,858 Shock and awe (fusion rifle) 13,440 Eye of for sight (sniper rifle) 8,960 Show of force (sniper rifle) 10,850 First in, last out (shotgun) 7,232 Hoosegow (rocket launcher) 8,920