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9/26/2017 9:09:45 PM
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This is another point of feedback I am seeing a lot of. I'll make sure the team sees this and knows that you would like to see some RNG in the weapon rolls again.
Personally, I never enjoyed having to level up a gun to unlock its perks. But appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
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Thanks for replying cos. Either more weapons or mods roll. The idea of playing Diablo or wow and having someone get the same weapon with the exact same stats. We love searching for god rolls Of items in rpg games. It's also an aspect that keeps you're people coming back for more... I remember grinding and grinding and grinding for hours and hours and hours on Diablo 2 for runes...a windforce a soj! It would take weeks some times months but I'll tell you when I found that item can only attribute it to people getting ghally the first time. With that said even though I got the bow....i wanted a better rolled one. One that increased attack speed by .3 percent more. That's what we want.
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Bang on
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Why not random rolls without having to upgrade?
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This should be obvious, dont know why some are struggling with the concept
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I guess it’s something we will have to deal with as a community for the time being.
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COZMO, Random weapon perks on all non raid guns, have a static tree than locks for PvP. Case solved.
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Case solved, all in favour say aye, AYE!!!! Get it -blam!-ing implemented and quick.
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Edited by RavenousLD3341: 9/27/2017 5:28:10 PMI'm with you Coz. Static rolls are a great change. You must understand that the people complaining about this aren't the 90%. I love the fact that My Better Devils and Your Better Devils are the same. There's no chance that your better devils will out range mine. I think just having MORE weapons will alleviate this issue.
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Nah it wont, it will just mean there are a -blam!- tonne more guns you have to delete.
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I like that we don't have to level up the guns. MAJOR plus to just go and PLAY with them. But if there's going to be static rolls, I do wish there was more variety. More gun variations. Maybe like Borderlands where you have a gun archetype but with 20+ variations of that archetype. Either way, MOAR GUNS!! /;)
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Either more rolls or a bunch more weapons static rolls are not a bad thing if there are 5 times the amount of weapons with different archetypes to choose from. Regardless I am having fun with the game also pulses feel just a tad bit weak
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Edited by Matt Boy52: 9/27/2017 3:49:05 PMWhat if you keep the static rolls for guns but add 5-6 different types of rolls for each gun that we are able to get from RNG. That way when we get duplicates it's not an automatic dismantle when there is some variation but still keeps the set perks for PvP balance. And keep the perks already unlocked when you get the gun, that was a good feature.
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I think getting armor and weapons ready to use is fantastic. Please don't change this. Thanks
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There becomes no diversity in weapons they no longer have different values. The only thing that matters is the Light Level, not the gun itself. We need rng rolls
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Leveling up guns was never fun, getting guns with RNG perks was fun. Exotics will always have set perks but let everything else be RNG. No one cares about weapons at all in D2 current state.
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I think no longer having to level up gear is a good change. Let's face it. It was a feature that was negated entirely by motes of light in D1 anyway. I would like to see RNG introduced again in some capacity for weapons though. It's one of the things that was so enjoyable in D1 and what kept many people playing.
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In honesty, fixed rolls were a great idea for balance purposes and giving more personality to each weapons. What could be done is a rework on the mod system allowing us to further personalize our weapon :)
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lol we all know this is a dream. They even told us they wanted it easier for them(Dev team)!to nerf a gun. Static rolls makes this possible. Raid and Trials Weapons/Armor give no incentive perks for said gameplay. They still haven’t fixed the raid shotgun glitch.... Lazy dev team I loved Destiny 1. Logged in over 5000+ hrs in it. No way in hell I’ll be doing that in D2. Faction wars and Iron Banner won’t keep this game afloat. Bungie really took a step backwards with D2.
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Raid and Trials Weapons have Ambitious Assassin/The slide perk as their special perks, but they're not forced persay.
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Personally, I never enjoyed having to level up a gun to unlock its perks. But appreciate you sharing your thoughts.[/quote] Keep it all unlocked just randomized perks.
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"The Science Behind RNG: it's gambling RNG and luck in games is essentially gambling, and it is very addictive. For every low there is a high, a big epic moment, and that is what players want. From getting that impossible winning draw to getting a perfect run, players keep playing in order to get that rush. The thought of getting that rush, that one win, is what keeps people playing and it's what causes gambling addictions. [b]Gambling is very similar to addictive drugs [/b]when it comes to what it does to our brains. A human has a reward system in their brain that releases a chemical called dopamine. source: https://www.gameskinny.com/pvp33/why-do-gamers-like-rng-based-games
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Ive never seen a game community asks for more rng.. its crazy. Please dont add rng into it.
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Shut up
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"The Science Behind RNG: it's gambling RNG and luck in games is essentially gambling, and it is very addictive. For every low there is a high, a big epic moment, and that is what players want. From getting that impossible winning draw to getting a perfect run, players keep playing in order to get that rush. The thought of getting that rush, that one win, is what keeps people playing and it's what causes gambling addictions. Gambling is very similar to addictive drugs when it comes to what it does to our brains. A human has a reward system in their brain that releases a chemical called dopamine. source: https://www.gameskinny.com/pvp33/why-do-gamers-like-rng-based-games they are going thru addiction withdrawal.
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Bring back gunsmith rolls, with a few exceptions 1) only for raid, iron banner, and trials weapons, so people actually care about those activities. 2) make it expensive 3) don’t make people unlock the perks, just leave them already leveled as it is now. 4) make every other weapon stay with static rolls. That way, it’s only an option for endgame players, but actually gives people the option if they want to grind in the endgame to get that perfect weapon for them.
