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Edited by Sedi Draguta:
9/25/2017 5:18:04 AM
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What noob fps players don't understand about teamshots
I don't mean to sound condescending, cause we've all been noob in a game (even if we've been playing it for years), i personally got into Destiny, year 2 with the Taken King.i got into it because of pvp, mainly Becuase of trials and pvp, I sucked ass, got stomped, and struggled to get a tiny bit better every day.
The current teamshot meta, crushs the skill gap essential for a competitive fps & and ironically requires less teamwork because coordinating to look down a general direction isn't rocket surgery.
In the old destiny, once you faced 2000+ elo players in trials of osiris you would have to coordinate as a team effectively, team shooting at times but not by hardscoping a single line of sight, because if you did, you would grt picked apart due to the higher time to kill which made baits, flanks, and pieing corners alot more effective.
You& your team would have to hold down multiple lines of sight, bait and avoid grtting baited, all while communicating where the pushes and baits are coming from,
That is essentially gone, traded in for a meta that rewards players to look down one line of sight.
If you like that, that's cool, but understand some people find thst really boring, it gives you an artificial feeling of team work, and some of us had to face a team of 2000+ elo players for our flawless matches in d1, and that required a ridiculous amount of coordination, and teamwork, plus big plays
Sorry for any typos, it's late and I'm typing on my tablet
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The entire game is full of noob f*cks, you should only play with friends.
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Teamshotting is not a bad thing. It's essential in maximizing the chances of winning firefights. The problem is that the TTK in D2 is so low that it becomes a necessity. In D2 you can lay down half a clip into an enemy for 2-3 seconds sometimes up to 5 which is a very long time in a firefight engagement without killing them. Only for another enemy teammate to come in and kill you within half a second and have your target survive the entire thing even if you focused on them during that time.
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3 RepliesOne day you might find some pussy, but I'm not banking on it
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6 RepliesI never saw this much camping in Destiny 1. Unless I played Shotgunpremacy So much skill in this new revamp. "Guys, got a blip on muh radar! Left side!" Team turns to left side flank. Lights up poor bastard in a 4v1. "OH MUH GOD, GUYS! I GOTZ ANOTHER BLIP ON DA RIGHT SIDE OMGZ!" Team promptly stares down right flank. Lights up opponents in a 4v2 scenario. "Yeah! Teamwork! LOVE THIS NEW MIDA GUN! WISH IT WAS IN DESTINY 1!" Lol, but seriously. When are we gonna get the worthwhile PvP we were promised? Amirite? Amirite?
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The good players will always be the top players whether it's D1 or D2 if they team shoot but it's not fun cuddling your fireteam all game. It's not how I want to play. The difference in skill only shows 2v1 etc where you could easily wipe 2 players solo if you were decent. You can't do that anymore or rarely. PvP doesn't interest me on D2 and it's all I've played since ttk.
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1 ReplyIt's boring and with mida being so prevalent it's almost impossible to flank, unless of course the radar bugs out and doesn't work properly
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1 ReplyYou lost me when you brought up "elo". Thats an easy mute.
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2 Repliesartificial feeling of team work...idk how team shooting is a fake team work..they both have the name team in it. Most people I know don't just sit in one location looking down the hallway waiting for something to happen. they still rotate around, cover multiple hallways, communicate where the enemy is. It's just that we all run and try to kill the person that gets baited out together.
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5 RepliesI for one would love to see rocket surgery :).
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22 RepliesI find this more skillful, but eh whateva, m8.
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5 RepliesSo team shooting=not playing as a team... I don't think even the flat eathers on here could help you justify that one..
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5 RepliesYou can debate all you want about how much skill is or isn't required to work productively in a team, but that's not the point. Personally, I think you're nuts. Most sports [b]teams[/b] would disagree with you, and I'm pretty sure any person who spent more than 5 minutes in the armed forces would laugh at you. But again, not the point. This is the point: Even the Crucible playlist descriptions spell out that it's a team oriented game. If you don't like that, then go play something else.
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Ahh yes, bringing up the imaginary ELO number that makes us all feel like gods... Stop, that is a number made up vy the community.
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5 RepliesGo play competitive overwatch and if you’re part of a good team, someone is calling out one hero to focus. This is when the six man team focus fires the hero and you watch them melt. This is what competitive gaming is about; working together to dominate a team. This isn’t CoD where a Lone Ranger can go run off and carry the full team like most people who played D1 crucible are use to doing. Bungie made crucible a team game now. It sucks being in there with randoms because bungies team chat still doesn’t work but if you go in as a four man fire team, and work together, you’ll wreck mofos every time. I noticed this in week one when I my team split up and everyone went different ways. I got face rolled with a quickness because I kept running into two or three guardians. Then I started following a random on my team and things started working out for us. If you wanna be a Lone Ranger, go back to CoD and play that bull shit.
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3 RepliesGo into D1 into a custom match, and see how quickly you will be melted if team shot. The power of team shooting in Destiny has not changed. The only thing that has changed is that you don't have the ability to one hit kill opponents anymore except for the limited time you have power ammo.
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Idk what game types you've been playing but a lot of games turn into 4v4 shitstorms where everyone in the match is in the same tiny room blowing each other away and the team that wins only has one guy left standing. It's -blam!-ing AWESOME and I love it.
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1 ReplyThey cant team shot because they are edgey twelve year olds who want to lone wolf it
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9 RepliesYou can debate all you want about how much skill is or isn't required to work productively in a team, but that's not the point. Personally, I think you're nuts. Most sports [b]teams[/b] would disagree with you, and I'm pretty sure any person who spent more than 5 minutes in the armed forces would laugh at you. But again, not the point. This is the point: Even the Crucible playlist descriptions spell out that it's a team oriented game. If you don't like that, then go play something else.
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7 RepliesEdited by Wish: 9/26/2017 3:10:23 PMPetition to use the term "Rocket Surgery" as the most difficult thing to do ever conceived [spoiler]I know you said sorry for typos, just thought it was funny 😂[/spoiler] Edit: Turns out I'm just dumb and this is a thing people say
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the thing is your super should counter the team shooting. in a game about space magic, your space magic should make you super. How many of you have cast your super and not even made it to the guy that was 10' away? it's bs.
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2 RepliesEdited by Eyes Alive: 9/25/2017 11:01:38 PMI 100% agree. The current state of crucible doesn't reward skillful players or people with great aim, instead it rewards players who camp together in the back of their spawn and aim down the same sight line without any fear of flanks because it's impossible to solo flank a team! It's complete garbage. I played over 500 hours of D1 crucible and went to the lighthouse regularly with my team but now I don't even want to play PVP. It's just SO stale and repetitive with EVERY match playing out exactly the same. It's too bad because I really enjoyed the Crucible the way it was in D1 :(
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Yo, rocket surgery sounds complex AF.
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Like 99% of these forums.
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Low TTK = who ever sees the other first wins. Hated the D1 crucible because of it. It wasn't like people were using primary's either. People were running 1 shot weapons all day. Bungie just needs to up the regeneration of health rate. The game just feels to slow. Also, only reason dumb 1v4 flanks worked was because people died in .01 seconds to shotguns. All 4 people would be dead before they could react. Now you need heavy ammo for that. But MIDA radar makes it pointless to try and flank.
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1 ReplyMost of us are used to playing FPS games where 3 auto rifle shots were enough to kill a person. Something like Call of Duty or Battlefield. 1 vs 3 isnt that hard if you had the mechanical skill. Issue with Bungies PVP is definitely because of everyone's stacked HP and shields. Definitely requires team work which most solo players dont have. Cant fault them for that.
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1 ReplyRocket surgery
