I'll sum it up. He gives it a 6/10. He gave Destiny 1 a 6/10. Here is a sum up of his reasons for the rating (which means slightly above average since a 5/10 means average from him.) First, the positives: -Music is amazing -Cayde-6 is amazing -Gunplay mechanics are amazing -Subclass changes are good -PvP is fun and well paced -There is an actual, cohesive story -Progression is solid -Clan features are welcomed -New strikes are better than D1's -Less "sit in room and fight waves of enemies" missions -both sky boxes and art are amazing -cinematic cutscenes and voice acting are great Now, the negatives: -One time use shaders -Raid is extremely tedious and not rewarding enough -story is basic and cliché -no in-game Grimoire (an actual codex of lore instead of random scattered lore) -microtransactions -epic music plays when nothing epic happens on screen -poor AI (not improved since D1, enemies stand around and charge single file) -exotic engrams drop duplicates too often -you can't choose gamemodes in PvP -cringy Failsafe dialogue -little to no insight/story development on the people that actually live in the Last City (no reason to fight) -lazy copy paste elements (gear, enemies, character creation) -you get your Light way too early in the campaign -no sparrow early on (forced to walk long, empty distances) -low quality textures and effects in some instances While I still love Destiny and am having a great time in Destiny 2, I agree with Joe on a lot of his points. This really is Destiny 1.5. It's the Destiny we should have gotten the first time around. As a long time fan and someone that has played these games religiously since the beta all the way through 3 years, I have to say I am somewhat disappointed in this sequel. I think Destiny 2 is a "two steps forward, two steps back" situation and agree with Joe's assessment for the most part. Though, I think a 7/10 is more justifiable. What are your thoughts?