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7/29/2010 8:09:50 PM
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The Seventh Spartan: Arete Seven, or Noble 7 [UPDATED 9/4]

I've been thinking about Noble 6, and the size of the spartan team. Due to Bungie's affinity for the number 7, I wondered why they would stop one spartan short. That's when I remembered about [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=25491975&postRepeater1-p=1]This Interesting Thread[/url] I saw a while back. If you haven't seen that thread, I suggest you give it a read, both to understand this post, and because it's a pretty cool find. Also, please don't comment unless you've read the post. Now, Arete can be translated from Greek to "Noble" in English, thus giving us [b]Noble Seven[/b]. I find this a bit too obvious to be a coincidence with the very close "Noble Six," the protaganists of Bungie's final Halo game. Also, during the first 30 seconds of the[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5kkW2CrUFg]Once More Upon the Breach[/url] trailer, some interesting comments can be heard from Tung about a certain group of seven. This leads me to believe that there will be a seventh spartan reveiled somewhere along the campaign. How this would happen, who that spartan would be, and why they did not just start out with seven spartans to begin with I do not know. I am aware that this is all just speculation, but I would find it odd if Bungie didn't have a seventh spartan hidden somewhere or another with the given circumstances. If you have any thoughts or theories, feel free to put them here. I would like to keep this thread alive for as long as possible, because I might have overlooked some things that other members might be able to help with. I will update if any new information comes up. [quote] [/quote] *Edit*: 7/30 Here is some info I was previously not aware of: In ODST the following license plate numbers can be seen- spartan code names and there respective identities- KNL 259C - Carter-259, Noble Leader KNO 320K - Kat-320, Noble One KNT 293T - Thom-293, Noble Two/Three (?) [KIA] KNT 052J - Jorge-052, Noble Two/Three (?) KNF 266J - Jun-266, Noble Four KNF 239E - Emile-239, Noble Five KNS 312X - XXX-312, Noble Six [Lone Wolf] KNS 344R - Sierra-344, Noble Seven My personal #1 guess now would be S-344, whoever that is, will be Noble 7. Thanks to crakapleez911 for this info. If you want to see the complete list of license plate easter eggs in ODST, [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/License_Plate_Eggs]Here[/url] they are. Note that Noble Team members are listed as either KNT or KNS. *Edit*: 8/4 [url=http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/14/exclusive-halo-reach-figure-offered-at-comic-con.aspx]Here[/url] is the "Noble 7" McFarlane action figure shown at comicon. I know that this was made for promotional purposes, but I think this is one more small piece of evidence that there will be a Noble 7. I personally find that this is not at all what Noble 7 would actually look like, as it looks too much like a combination of Carter and Noble 6... *Edit*: 8/5 I should have put this in here sooner- but here it is incase anyone hasn't seen this yet. [url=http://www.bungie.net/projects/reach/article.aspx?ucc=personnel&cid=24523]Here[/url] is some info on S-344. It shows S-344 is a likely candidate to replace Emile should he continue to have disciplinary problems or die. This strengthens my opinion on S-344 being Noble 7. *Edit*: 8/14 I completely forgot about this. Its nothing big, but there is a redacted Firefight voice in the list of voices Bungie has shown us. It could honestly be any one in the campaign that hasn't been shown yet, but I'd put my money on Noble 7. *Edit*: 9/4 Well, I do believe quit an important piece of information has turned up in regards to the existence of Noble 7. During Bungie's PAX panel, they said, among other things, that [url=http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1118468p1.html]"Bungie claims that they wanted the team of Noble Six - who were originally meant to be Nobel Seven, Bungie revealed - to feel instantly recognizable, that, like the world of Reach, they had existed and lived before the player has ever had a chance to meet them in the game."[/url] It most certainly seems that, though they originally planned to have a group of seven spartans, they decided, for whatever reason, to drop the count to six. Even a picture of the concept art of Noble 7 can be seen in the link. You can see two female spartans, rather than one. I believe that, from the license plates from ODST, that this cut female spartan was spartan 344R, possibly named Rebecca. This explains alot of the earlier commentary regarding "the seven samauri" and "the magnificent seven" comments from Tung, as well as the post-it-notes found in the Once More Upon the Breach trailer. Does this mean that Noble 7 will not be seen within Reach, I do not know. This does show that, however, Noble 7 was meant to be shown from the very beginning, and the fact that she is still unknow suggests very little involvement in the main story. Also I am quite positive that Master Chief is not Noble 7. Not only is he highly unlikely to show up in Reach, it would also not make any sense even if he joined Noble Team. If you just stop and think about it, there are much more likely candidates than the hero of the other halo games... [Edited on 09.04.2010 6:36 PM PDT]
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  • Did they say why they cut out the other spartan?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Paradoxed Pretty big piece of information from Bungie's panel at PAX 2010. I updated the info in the OP with a link. Please give it a read.[/quote] Wow, all of Noble Team's faces and what not. Too bad that other chick spartan didn't make the cut...

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  • Pretty big piece of information from Bungie's panel at PAX 2010. I updated the info in the OP with a link. Please give it a read.

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  • On the Action figure thing it said he wouldn't be in the game.

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  • i think that Noble 7 could be anyone. it could be a new spartan III, an existing one, or anything. but we won't know til September.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] merono1331 this is so funny i love how people take things and blow them way out of proportion. your right my friend he is nothing but a toy made only for comic con and for fans to buy heres a link: http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/14/exclusive-halo-reach-figure-offered-at-comic-con.aspx but yeah its a cool looking toy though lol[/quote] Does no one read a thread before posting anymore? I've already had this conversation with another member. I am not just basing my theory for Noble 7 from the existance of an action figure. If you'd bother to read my thread and the 1 linked, you'd find some considerable evidence towards this character. I have yet to see a single person tell or show evidence disproving the theory...

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  • this is so funny i love how people take things and blow them way out of proportion. your right my friend he is nothing but a toy made only for comic con and for fans to buy heres a link: http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/14/exclusive-halo-reach-figure-offered-at-comic-con.aspx but yeah its a cool looking toy though lol

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Paradoxed You're making my head hurt. How long did you bother taking to figure that out? Never mind, it doesn't matter. Those conspiracy number theories never make any sense to me...[/quote] I accidentally thought of that while trying to sleep a while ago.

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  • You're making my head hurt. How long did you bother taking to figure that out? Never mind, it doesn't matter. Those conspiracy number theories never make any sense to me...

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  • Let me explain something. In halo reach, we meet five spartan 3s, and one spartan 2. In halo ce, we meet one spartan 2. Add the number of spartan 2s and spartan 3s we have met in a bungie game, and you get seven. Now, add the 2 in spartan 2 to 7, and we get 9. multiply 2 and 5. You get 10. Now, add two spartan twos and the two in spartan 2, and you get 14. Now, multiply 10 by the two in spartan 2. You get 20. Now, put 10 at the end, and we have 2010. So, we meet 7 spartans, and they create 9, 14, and 2010, or 9/14/2010.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BloodierSpades [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TK3000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quebert [quote][STORY] [AMBUSH] [CARTER ORDERS YOU INTO POSITION] [1st GROUND MISSION VS. COVY] [BASIC COMBAT TRAINING] [LIMITED NON LINEAR "PATROL ENCOUNTER"] [ELITE CAN GET AWAY OR NOT] [ELITE (illegible) SPARTAN] [NEW CHARACTER-CRITICAL --- REBECCA] [JACKAL W/ SHIELD --- VOV] [SPECIAL BAD-A ELITE] [PLASMA RIFLE] [ASSAULT RIFLE] [MAGNUM] [PLASMA RIFLE] [FRAG GRENADE] [MARINES HOLD PERIMETER.. *REBELS DON'T DO THIS...*] [FIRST VEHICLE (NEW)] [JACKAL SKIRMISHER] [NEW CHARACTER (AT LEAST FOR NOW)] [MAGNUM] [ELITE] [PLASMA CARBINE] [ENERGY SWORD] [FALCON/*] [NEEDLER] [GRENADE INVENTORY] [COLTRAP GRENADE] [WARTHOG CHAINGUN] [MORTAR (illegible)] [GHOST] [ELITE SQUAD] [JACKAL] [ELITE *] [WOW] [PLASMA TURRET] [SKIRMISHER PACK] [JACKAL (illegible)] [JACKAL] [(illegible) SUPORT] [WARTHOG (illegible)] [AMMO CRATE] [WRAITH] [ANTI-AIR WRAITH] [BANSHEE FOR SUPPORT] [COVENANT ARTILLERY (piece/rifle?)] [WARTHOG TRAP] [COVENANT (illegible)] [WARTHOG] [SUPER TURRET] [SHADE TURRET] [JACKAL SNIPER] [THIS SHOULD BE IT'S OWN MISSION. DAY/NIGHT SAME MAP] [NIGHT] [WHERE IS HUMAN FLEET? DROPPING LIKE METEORS FROM (illegible)] [HUMANS ARE STILL LOSING BIG...] [SPG?] [PHANTOM] [HOW DO YOU KNOW ABOUT SHIP?] [HE** ARE THESE GUYS!"] [FTW!!] [RECON--- ARTY] [(illegible) ODST] [LOST CALICO CAT ANSWERS TO JONESY] [FIGHT FROM FALCON --- YES, GOOD (illegible) TRANSITION] There are many more I have to go through, but there are some here I want to point out. [NEW CHARACTER-CRITICAL --- REBECCA] [NEW CHARACTER (AT LEAST FOR NOW)] [/quote] Noble Seven will be a female Spartan named Rebecca. This theory fits with the lisencse plate clues as well.[/quote] We have a winner[/quote] I think these are the sticky notes that are shown during the first Reach ViDoc[/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0_jiB2hqeQ]The First Vidoc Once More Unto the Breach[/url] - Its shown at 1:14 on the bottom left,its a yellow sticky that says rebecca and then has an arrow pointing and saying critical character. Also id like to point out and the start of said vidoc,he mentions a lot of refrence was thrown around including (The [b]SEVEN[/b] samurai and the magnificent [b]SEVEN[/b] and the obvious fact bungie loves the number [b]SEVEN[/b])

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] old wapples Bungie has no reason to portray a completely new spartan in Reach. It is very simple... Noble 7 is John 117. /thread[/quote] I find it funny that, after not even reading my thread, or the one I linked to, after 165 replies, once you add your 2 close-minded cents, the thread should end. How about explaining why you think MC is Noble 7? He won't be on Reach during the battle, he in all likelyhood will not meet Noble team, and won't play any significant role in the game whatsoever. Your logic is faulty and paper thin.

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  • Bungie has no reason to portray a completely new spartan in Reach. It is very simple... Noble 7 is John 117. /thread

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THeHiTMAN four20 This all seems legit to me. It would also explain the redacted firefight voice. [/quote] Oh yeah, that's right. I had forgotten about the redacted firefight voice. It doesn't automatically mean that its Noble 7's, but it certainly might be...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Paradoxed Also I am quite positive that Master Chief is not Noble 7. Not only is he highly unlikely to show up in Reach, it would also not make any sense even if he joined Noble Team. If you just stop and think about it, there are much more likely candidates than the hero of the other halo games... [/quote] MC might not be Noble 7 but he could have a huge roll in reach. Maybe Noble encounters John and Linda when they come to get the rest of Blue team. MC might not be shown often but Blue Team could, Fred was incharge of a ground base attack and than Kelly, fred and joshaua attacked a covenant ground camp plus a ship with a bomb killing several troops. Also John, linda and James were at the UNSC Circumference to initiate the Cole Protocol, and destroy the NAV date. Soo when John and linda came to rescue the other spartans of Blue Team James stayed so I highly doubt james will have a appearance in Reach.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TK3000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Quebert [quote][STORY] [AMBUSH] [CARTER ORDERS YOU INTO POSITION] [1st GROUND MISSION VS. COVY] [BASIC COMBAT TRAINING] [LIMITED NON LINEAR "PATROL ENCOUNTER"] [ELITE CAN GET AWAY OR NOT] [ELITE (illegible) SPARTAN] [NEW CHARACTER-CRITICAL --- REBECCA] [JACKAL W/ SHIELD --- VOV] [SPECIAL BAD-A ELITE] [PLASMA RIFLE] [ASSAULT RIFLE] [MAGNUM] [PLASMA RIFLE] [FRAG GRENADE] [MARINES HOLD PERIMETER.. *REBELS DON'T DO THIS...*] [FIRST VEHICLE (NEW)] [JACKAL SKIRMISHER] [NEW CHARACTER (AT LEAST FOR NOW)] [MAGNUM] [ELITE] [PLASMA CARBINE] [ENERGY SWORD] [FALCON/*] [NEEDLER] [GRENADE INVENTORY] [COLTRAP GRENADE] [WARTHOG CHAINGUN] [MORTAR (illegible)] [GHOST] [ELITE SQUAD] [JACKAL] [ELITE *] [WOW] [PLASMA TURRET] [SKIRMISHER PACK] [JACKAL (illegible)] [JACKAL] [(illegible) SUPORT] [WARTHOG (illegible)] [AMMO CRATE] [WRAITH] [ANTI-AIR WRAITH] [BANSHEE FOR SUPPORT] [COVENANT ARTILLERY (piece/rifle?)] [WARTHOG TRAP] [COVENANT (illegible)] [WARTHOG] [SUPER TURRET] [SHADE TURRET] [JACKAL SNIPER] [THIS SHOULD BE IT'S OWN MISSION. DAY/NIGHT SAME MAP] [NIGHT] [WHERE IS HUMAN FLEET? DROPPING LIKE METEORS FROM (illegible)] [HUMANS ARE STILL LOSING BIG...] [SPG?] [PHANTOM] [HOW DO YOU KNOW ABOUT SHIP?] [HE** ARE THESE GUYS!"] [FTW!!] [RECON--- ARTY] [(illegible) ODST] [LOST CALICO CAT ANSWERS TO JONESY] [FIGHT FROM FALCON --- YES, GOOD (illegible) TRANSITION] There are many more I have to go through, but there are some here I want to point out. [NEW CHARACTER-CRITICAL --- REBECCA] [NEW CHARACTER (AT LEAST FOR NOW)] [/quote] Noble Seven will be a female Spartan named Rebecca. This theory fits with the lisencse plate clues as well.[/quote] We have a winner[/quote] I think these are the sticky notes that are shown during the first Reach ViDoc

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  • Thom was Noble 7, when a spartan dies hes replaced with a military number or something ower than him... Thom was Noble 7, Noble 6 is his replacment. Its true look it up. Even the action figure shows legitment proof.

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  • This all seems legit to me. It would also explain the redacted firefight voice.

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  • This is very interesting not to be off topic but that other tread was even more interesting [Edited on 08.05.2010 8:46 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] La Kimo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NOBLE lll noble 7 is john 117 [/quote] really? wow Noble 7 was killed by protecting either carter or Jun im not entirely sure... all i know is he was protecting someone in Noble. [/quote] Um... who are you refering to? If you are talking about Thom, then he wasn't refered to as Noble 7. he was the old Noble 6...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NOBLE lll noble 7 is john 117 [/quote] really? wow Noble 7 was killed by protecting either carter or Jun im not entirely sure... all i know is he was protecting someone in Noble. I think and so do other speculations that MC coud have a roll in this game... Blue team was in the battle of reach but Linda and John werent. linda and John went to reach to save the other spartans. Remember in Halo2 there was a dual campaign... well some people think reach will be the same only not UNSC/covenant campaign it will be Noble/Blue team campaign.

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  • Yeah, Thom's definitely dead. He's not showing up, except for a possible flash back scene. The question would be if he should be counted with the remaining Noble Team.

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  • this Thom spartan is clearly dead. in the first reach vidoc, Lee Wilson clearly states "youre a replacement for a spartan thats died". so unless Thommy boy fakes his death, is replaced by a new noble 6, gets recruited by ONI or something only to rejoin Noble team as noble 7.....i doubt he'll make an appearance.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HUMMUS 27 Noble 7 is Master Chief just cause, well it would be awesome. My prediction is in one of the final missions you will need to rescue him. This would also make sense because he had a hell of a lot of luck. Plus, it's Bungie's last Halo game. MC has to be in there somewhere. Stupid is stupid does... I can dream, can't I?[/quote]

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  • Well, yes you can dream, but 1) Did you even read my thread? 2) Did you read The Fall of Reach? Because if you did, you would know that just isn't going to happen. [Edited on 08.05.2010 8:05 PM PDT]

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  • Noble 7 is Master Chief just cause, well it would be awesome. My prediction is in one of the final missions you will need to rescue him. This would also make sense because he had a hell of a lot of luck. Plus, it's Bungie's last Halo game. MC has to be in there somewhere. I can dream, can't I?

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