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9/17/2017 6:49:30 PM
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lol! there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING Bungie will do that there wont be a group of people crying about it. If they made the raid rain loot next complaint will be
I ALREADY GOT ALL THE LOOT AND THERE IS NO POINT DOING THE RAIDS ANYMORE
and then followed closely by
THERE IS NOTHING TO DO, WHY IS THERE NO CONTENT BUNGO!
followed even more closely by
DESTINY IS DEAD
The game is not even one month old and you want to be given all the raid drops on a pinyata doll for you to smack them all on a single raid run......wow this community.....wow.
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Valid point. It's one or another. Power drops according to current power without mods, so that answers why it dropped at lower light. Also, you're right about how kids don't seem to understand what Bungie did to spread out the accessibility of achieving max light. The real issue is that salty kiddies don't get exactly what they want from the raid. Whether it's a certain weapon(s) or armor. If you get goose egged on drops, tough luck. Better luck next week. As you said, game hasn't even been out a month yet. But most complaining on the forums regarding drops want instant gratification due to completing something remotely difficult or time consuming. There are always going to be complaints, no matter what Bungie does. Lol
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I heard a MMO once pulled a raid that took 6 months for it to be completed the first time....imagine if Bungie did that for Destiny raid.
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Edited by iDovahBear: 9/18/2017 2:02:59 AMSeriously , what is with everyone getting brain worms suddenly? I'm starting to worry it's an epidemic. Are you feeling alright?
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hahahaa! I see what you did there....bravo!
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No. If you pay attention to what everyone is complaining about you would know what's going on. The raid is END GAME CONTENT An activity where for its challenge and effort needed to complete it, should offer relevant rewards. Now the drop rate is fine given you have a vendor that can give you raid engrams as well as clan raid engram a well. however, the rewards you get from the raid itself(For completing each of Calus' trials like bathers pleasure gardens etc.) are absolute garbage. They drop BELOW you're current power level, much like normal legendary engrams. Why is it we can get better power relevant gear and loot through the public events. The time people spend in the raid right now will fall behind the people spending the same amount of time doing public events. For a high end game activity the actual rewards are kind of disappointing and more. And I know people are gonna just claim "You can just infuse into it." But that defeats the purpose of the RAID. In the raid when you get the loot it is supposed to be good gear and typical have something that makes it worth the effort we made. Too much effort for little worth.
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thing is that Bungie spread out the progression so that it is not tied to only end game content to get max level. in D1 vanilla your ONLY hope of progressing after getting to 28 iirc are nightfall drops and raid gear. If you dont raid you stuck on forever 29 and even those who raided were also stuck at forever 29 you had to pray that Xur came with a piece you dont already have to boost up with exotic. Not until Wrath of the Machine was progression removed totally from end game alone and moved to exotic engrams via 3oC In D2 there is no 3oC but rather a healthy amount of activity that will progress u no matter what and are guaranteed to give ya loot above ya current light level and those are Luminous engrams so basically for just playing you progress. In D1 Rise of Iron no one went to raid for max light items anymore but just poped exotic engrams which is now replaced here by luminous engrams (exotics can still drop for infusion though) Still the Raid callus reward will give ya a high light item and the chests have a good chance of dropping exotics which also is higher than your current level so anyone that raids in addition to picking up luminous engrams will still have much faster progression.
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The main point of this post was to point out that getting 3 rewards from the whole thing between TWO characters is bullshit (not to mention that two of the drops were under leveled). It takes a lot of effort to get through this raid. The main thing that pisses me off is that the items drop at low power levels. I can deal with not getting loot from every checkpoint, but when you add on top of it that when I do actually get loot and it’s useless, that’s when I get pissed. I would say I would just infuse my weapon drops to higher levels, but I can’t because I can’t infuse outside of the weapon archetype and don’t have a higher auto rifle than the one I got from the raid 😂
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thing is Bungie has tried to find a way to make raid rewards accessible so they made it so that you can receive rewards the following ways - After completing and encounter chance at gear - Getting raid tokens after every encounter and exchanging tokens with vendor - Getting luminuous engrams for raid completion which has guaranteed raid gear for clan members - Chance at exotic and lots of legendaries from the raid chests (9 of them) There is no way that you cant get raid loot from all these methods, and light level though possible to get them from the raid is not the ONLY method of acquiring then and very soon everyone will be max power that it will no longer be an issue. So I think the raid is quite fair in the way that loot is given out
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actually no, the luminous engram is only for the first week of the raid, at reset i lost the milestone for the raid. it doesn't refresh each week. so again, if raid nightfall and such are end game, explain how you have such low drop rates for gear? i understand it isn't the only end game to increase power, but should still offer that means for those who enjoy raiding and spend the time to complete it. and to get enough tokens to get an engram from benedict you need to run 1 raid and a half using two characters, maybe to engram with the keys.but even still will not be light relevant, again the may point of raiding. Yes they made it so if you don't raid you can still keep up. but raid should at all times (Other than hawthorne's raid engram) should be relevant light, given to get the tokens or gear, you have to run through and complete at least some parts of the raid. And it is people like the cry babies who whine about not being able to progress because they can't raid, ends up messing up how they used to be for those who raid ALL the time (Like myself) but it is sad that you can make MORE PROGRESS farming public events and strikes or crucible than the raid, the highest end game content. The raid asks for close to perfection, one man dies it is either revive or die. Communication is required to get things done and so on. And with the time it takes NORMAL, CASUAL EVERYDAY PLAYERS to complete it should reward us with the effort put in. Thi raid in terms of that is piss poor compared to the previous raids. And duplicates are a whole nother subject matter. I can play final fantasy 14 raid and get so much better stuff than this for one run. So disappointed in this raid with the difficulty, bugs and lack of worthwhile rewards for effort, just going to help my clan with this and drop the raid and most likely the game until December.Everything i got from the raid, my gear i went in with was already better in terms of light.
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lets agree that the raids should always give higher light? so what happens when you hit max light? you will still play? or will you quit till the next thing comes up?
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will just do weekly and that might be all if even that to try and get the exotics i don't have. mainly because game gives me nothing but dupes. 4 celestial nighthawk 3 sweet business 2 grav lance 2 skyburners but that is the main problem i am seeing with raid. for end game the gear we typically go in with is higher than it drops to the put it is useless without infusing,
