I honestly hate one time shaders, lack of voice actor for guardian is lame. Hell my Warlock in the first cutscene with the big armored boss took a VERY strong hit and didn't even utter a single grunt or groan or ANYTHING to indicate pain from that blow in that cutscene? The voices used during patrol are just a copy and paste sound rip from Destiny 1. This deserved a God damn 2 out of 10. They can make up whatever reason they want for a silent protagonist but in truth it's just them being lazy assholes.

Way too generous, he was paid off.

Here is my thoughts: i didnt pay for the game, and i am glad i didnt. I gameshare with my friend, he bought it, i downloaded it for free. I'm already very bored with it. I put in more than 2700 hours into D1. I was skeptical of D2, based on reveals and the beta. ALL of my assumptions of what this game would be are totally correct: it is a simplified version of an already simple D1, its easy mode, its boring, the story was a shallow excuse to destroy the vault and make you grind for the Mida, all over again. Too much story, Bungie? Nope. Just a really shitty story, with cringey characters and no motivation to care for them, recycled weapons, recycled enemies, recycled jokes/dialogue.... Does the game function better? Yes. Does that improve the experience? Not for me. I remember my first legendary drop in D1. It was the 77 Wizard. I have literally no idea what my first Legendary was in D2. They dump loot on you so fast, nobe of it matters. It certainly doesnt feel special. Its not a bad game, but adding map features the Rockstar or Ubisoft have had in their game's gor more than 10 years doesnt make your game a better game. It just makes it functional by 2007's standard. Bland worlds, no dynamic events or enemies, a story built for children, and a loot system that works to invalidate itself.... This is Destiny 1, 2, 3 and however many they will make. This game will never live up to its original hype. Its built for the lowest common denomenator, its a vehicle for microtransactions and its only even a little fun when played with friends. Is not fun to play solo. 6/10 is fair and accurate. This game will not retain players like the first one did. These are my thoughts.

I love how a sequel having copypaste elements (Not character creation, that was just lazy), makes it bad. Like, you expect half the enemy races to just up and disappear with no explenation?

I completely agree with the Joe saying the raid is tedious and unrewarding. Destiny one raids were gold. Leviathan is absolute (OPINION INCOMING) trash compared to the previous raids. We don't need a vendor for the raid give us our rewards in the raid damn it. Remove raid tokens is what I'm trying to say.

AngryJoe is a reviewer I have a lot of respect for. He's one of the few that isn't afraid to be completely honest and as always, AngryJoe is completely right this time around as well. While I do like Destiny 2, there are some things in this game that actually irritate me. I can actually live with things like Bungie forcing micro transactions, weapons with static roles, no actual ranked play (unless you look at destiny fracker which isn't even a bungie website), and the cringiest AI in any sci-if game I've played. What I can't accept is that a game company that made some of my personal favorite campaigns in the past like the ones in Halo 2 and Halo: Reach, is the same company that is making us pay $60 for a game that is going to be slowly sold to us and completed over time through paid DLC. THIS is scummy, and bungie should be ashamed. I leave for Air Force Bmt on October 3rd, so I most likely will not continue playing this game once I reach technical school unless I see some major improvements in how bungie treats the fan base. Destiny has always had potential. I want to believe that Bungie will do the right things but, sadly, I doubt it will happen.

im going to say that all attempted humor in D2 was pretty cringy. it's as if bungie sees us as middle school kids with immature senses of humor.

[quote] Now, the negatives: -One time use shaders[/quote] Yep 1 time shaders are tedious. But it also makes sense as to why they did it. I feel like as long as the shader drops are plentiful (Make them more than just 3-5 per drop) it will be fine. Not a big con to the game. [quote]-Raid is extremely tedious and not rewarding enough [/quote] Yep the raid isnt that rewarding. But being tedious/boring? Joe is just wrong there. Not everything in games are supposed to be easy and a walk through the park. learning from mistakes and teamwork is whats needed in the raid, not point and shoot. [quote]-story is basic and cliché[/quote] Agree here. Lots of shit is just predictable. [quote]-no in-game Grimoire (an actual codex of lore instead of random scattered lore)[/quote] Agreed here. Bungie should add all the Grimoire cards and new lore into a lore/codex tab in the menu. [quote]-microtransactions[/quote] Small thing. Microtransactions are in almost all games. Not anything to bitch anymore. Microtransactions dont instantly make a game bad. (Unless content is locked behind them) [quote]-epic music plays when nothing epic happens on screen[/quote] Small thing. Cant call a game bad because of this. [quote]-poor AI (not improved since D1, enemies stand around and charge single file)[/quote] Yep AI Is still pretty shit. The enemies shooting your ghost is fine though. They recognize your ghost as a bad guy so they shoot at him. It is also your source of revival. But the AI still needs some work in terms of combat and logic. But for a rebuttal, Halo AI was ass crack aswell. [quote]-exotic engrams drop duplicates too often[/quote] This shouldnt even be a negative. Its an RNG game. Joe got unlucky. No reason to whine about it. [quote]-you can't choose gamemodes in PvP[/quote] Agreed with this. Bungie needs to add a matchmaking preferences/settings tab. [quote]-cringy Failsafe dialogue[/quote] This is an opinion. Some people like it, some people dont. [quote]-little to no insight/story development on the people that actually live in the Last City (no reason to fight)[/quote] Agreed with this; we need to have a reason why we are fighting. Even Tom Clancy's the Division got this right. You could interact with survivors and help them out for EXp. [quote]-lazy copy paste elements (gear, enemies, character creation)[/quote] Gear copy paste? Some weapons returned and some armor aswell. Wouldnt consider this a copy paste. This is the same world obviously. Enemies copy paste I agree with. I wish they would have modified each faction a little more (Like how Phalanx' shields are a lot better looking and polished). And I definitely agree with character creation; we dont need Fallout 4 level of creation but we need more uniqueness in such a large game. [quote]-you get your Light way too early in the campaign [/quote] Agreed aswell. Maybe a slow progression where you slowly earn your light abilities back (Not going to one pool and getting all of them). It would have shown a sense of progression back towards getting the light. [quote]-no sparrow early on (forced to walk long, empty distances)[/quote] This is a pro and a con. Bungie wanted the players to experience all the surroundings rather than just zoom past it all. [quote]-low quality textures and effects in some instances[/quote] I feel like this only applies to console. I didnt see many low quality things in the PC Beta. Those are my thoughts Overall, Joe should not have given the game a 6/10. Almost all the core features Joe ranted on the OG destiny review have been improved. The negatives that joe mentioned are all small things that dont really affect gameplay all too much. Game deserves a 7.5/10 if you ask me.

The last of that guy's credibility has just evaporated. Basic, cliche story? Bullshit. Failsafe as a negative? Bullshit. Music as both a positive and a negative? Bullshit. Complaining about the [b]massively improved environments?[/b] Bullshit. Complaining that a game about magical abilities gives you magical abilities early on? Bullshit. Having to walk and not rush through the game? You guessed it - bullshit. And I can [i]maybe[/i] get behind some of his dislike of the game - but to give Destiny 2 the exact same rating as vanilla Destiny 1 is absolute insanity. If vanilla Destiny 1 was rated 6/10 then Destiny 2 should be [b]at the very least[/b] an 8/10. If Destiny 2 is 6/10 then vanilla Destiny 1 should have been 4/10. ... Can you tell that review has aggravated me? Edit: No in game grimoire?! Except for the -blam!-ing pages of it under each exotic piece!

Joe takes a consensus of the opinions of everybody else, and writes it as though it were his opinion. Unfortunately, he never plays most parts of the game that he rates. He plays a very small portion of the game and gives his ridiculously bloated point of you. Unfortunately, it is people like you who give credence to his opinions that make him continue. Why don't you just let the troll fade away?

9/10 some ppl are far too picky