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Edited by covertpetersen:
9/13/2017 1:27:22 PM
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The most hilarious part of this to me is that everyone has the story backwards. I see so many comments, much like OP's, that read like "all these leftist SJW libtard cucks are just looking to be offended" and that isn't what happened at all. They didn't get rid of this because of negative press, or because of a vocal minority crying for its removal. They removed it because it was brought to bungie's attention that the piece of gear resembled a hate symbol, and instead of leaving it in for literally no reason other than to not give right of center reactionaries something to bitch at those on the left about, they removed it. The reaction from people that it was removed is going far above the reaction that came about once it was discovered. What reason was there to keep it in? Honestly I want to know. Why do people care so much that it was removed? Ask yourself why this matters, you'll find that it doesn't, and that the people reacting negatively to its removal far outweigh the people who reacted negatively to its discovery. So which side of this argument is really the easily offended pearl clutching pussies here?
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[quote]The most hilarious part of this to me is that everyone has the story backwards. I see so many comments, much like OP's, that read like "all these leftist SJW libtard cucks are just looking to be offended" and that isn't what happened at all. They didn't get rid of this because of negative press, or because of a vocal minority crying for its removal. They removed it because it was brought to bungie's attention that the piece of gear resembled a hate symbol, and instead of leaving it in for literally no reason other than to not give right of center reactionaries something to bitch at those on the left about, they removed it. The reaction from people that it was removed is going far above the reaction that came about once it was discovered. What reason was there to keep it in? Honestly I want to know. Why do people care so much that it was removed? Ask yourself why this matters, you'll find that it doesn't, and that the people reacting negatively to its removal far outweigh the people who reacted negatively to its discovery. So which side of this argument is really the easily offended pearl clutching pussies here?[/quote] Get good scrub
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Once they take away our arms, what's next!! Our exotics?! Our freedom?! I don't want to live in your world you scrub
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Edited by WeebOtakuGamer: 9/13/2017 3:26:42 PMthey took it away because hunters have the right to bare arms
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[quote]Once they take away our arms, what's next!! Our exotics?! Our freedom?! I don't want to live in your world you scrub[/quote] 😂😂
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Thank you!
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Edited by Grunt 52: 9/13/2017 2:09:06 PM...well I kinda liked the armor set. That was about it for me. If it really came down to it though why couldn't they have removed the symbol so I could keep the appearance of it. Now I have to go get it from the crucible when I already had most of the set.
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I think the problem is that most people don't see it as a hate symbol. So on those grounds, what is the reason for removing it?
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Edited by covertpetersen: 9/13/2017 2:09:46 PMExcept it does though. Its also bungie's game and if they think it does that's all that matters. I love that every counter argument so far to removing something that could be perceived as resembling a hate symbol basically amounts to "but I don't think it does!". So again, why does its removal matter? Lets say for sake of argument it doesn't resemble a hate symbol (it does). Even with that in mind, and then having no reason to change it, why does it matter that it was changed?
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I understand your point but who perceives it as a hate symbol? Do you? If you don't, then why should you care if they kept it in the game? I don't personally care. I'm simply pointing out that your argument works both ways.
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I love that the basis of your argument involves assuming someone's intentions. Bulletproof.
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Oh, weird, a nuanced intelligent take on an issue on the Destiny forum. It's like finding a unicorn.
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[quote]Oh, weird, a [b][i][u]nuanced intelligent[/u][/i][/b] take on an issue on the Destiny forum. It's like finding a unicorn.[/quote] [quote]So which side of this argument is really the easily offended pearl clutching pussies here?[/quote] Lmao
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It's all relative. Obviously, I agree with the above poster. I'm as snowflakey liberal cuck as you can get and I had no idea this was an issue. I didn't realize the armor piece resembled something linked to white nationalism, (whether that's meant to be "ironic" or not, and 2017 doesn't seem like a good year to be ironic about white nationalism). There wasn't a huge public outcry, from my perception. But if someone points out to you, hey, that armor piece you made features iconography that resembles an icon linked to a hate group (again, regardless of the alleged irony behind the group), then obviously they'd want to change it. It's such a simple, easy thing to do. And with this community, it's not like they could just quietly change it with the patch, Bungie had to explain why they were changing it, since this community flips out over every little thing they do. So, why [b]not[/b] change it? I think the poster above does a pretty good job of inferring why the change was made. Why is it hard to believe that a tech company (generally tech companies lean liberal) based out in Washington state (also leans liberal) wouldn't correct it on their own volition once someone points it out to them?
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So you agree with the poster in that you can know exactly what someone is thinking at any time?
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Well, it helps that Bungie released a statement as to their motives... [quote]1/2 It’s come to our attention that a gauntlet in Destiny 2 shares elements with a hate symbol. It is not intentional. We are removing it. 2/2 Our deepest apologies. This does NOT represent our values, and we are working quickly to correct this. We renounce hate in all forms.[/quote]
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Is that a statement or a thought?
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Edited by Wheeze: 9/13/2017 3:21:16 PM[quote]Is that a statement or a thought?[/quote] When what you say ("we didn't mean for an armor piece to be associated with a hate group...") and what you do ("... so we're changing it.") are in sync, that is generally a good indication of what you think. It is entirely possible for one's thoughts to be out of sync with what they say and what they do, but again, as long as their actions match their words, does it even matter?
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Edited by Big Moist: 9/13/2017 3:18:43 PMIs it impossible for me to say something, do something, then think something differently? Come on dude this is basic shit.
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Edited by Wheeze: 9/13/2017 3:24:23 PM[quote]Is it impossible for me to say something, do something, then think something differently? Come on dude this is basic shit.[/quote] My bad. I mistyped my post. The corrected version answers your question: [quote]It is entirely possible for one's [b]thoughts [/b]to be out of sync with what they say and what they do, but again, as long as their actions match their words, does it even matter?[/quote]
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Then you don't agree with him because that's the basis for his entire argument.
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[quote]Then you don't agree with him because that's the basis for his entire argument.[/quote] I don't know, man, you're the one who seems to doubt Bungie's intentions when we have their words and actions to go by. If you want to live your entire life second guessing people who's words match their actions, be my guest.
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I will because I'm not psychic. I fail to see how it's unreasonable to think that Bungie might not actually think that this is some kind of horrible hate symbol and are simply doing it to appease people who don't even play the game.
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[quote]I will because I'm not psychic. I fail to see how it's unreasonable to think that Bungie might not actually think that this is some kind of horrible hate symbol and are simply doing it to appease people who don't even play the game.[/quote] In the unlikely event that you're correct, it doesn't matter. Bungie made their statement and they took action based on it. It's done. It's over. At this point, in this instance, motive is irrelevant. And with apologies for the appeal to authority, I make a living as a fraud investigator. I'm no stranger to inferring motive, especially when what people [b]say[/b] is in conflict with what they [b]did[/b]. To ease your mind and to assure you I don't believe I'm psychic, I'm also no stranger to the benefit of the doubt and the presumption of innocence.
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How is it unlikely? You really believe that every CEO who has ever virtue signaled to progressives actually believed what he was saying and wasn't doing it just to appease 20 people?
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[quote]How is it unlikely? You really believe that every CEO who has ever virtue signaled to progressives actually believed what he was saying and wasn't doing it just to appease 20 people?[/quote] Using the phrase "virtue signal" is what we call a "tell." I have repeatedly said their motives in this instance are irrelevant if their deeds match their actions. I don't really know what else there is for us to talk about. Enjoy your deeply cynical and suspicious life, dude.
