[b]YouTuber here. While the majority may complain without providing good reasons or searching for counters, I have always put in the necessary hours to back up what I say.[/b] I can link and time stamp my videos, but I would rather summarize my vibes from various metas. Beta: auto rifles are more effective due to map variety, ease of use and obtaining, and weakness of handcannons (reload, mag size, perks). A stupid amount of bugs existed. Y1: Thorn (post buff) is too powerful. Combined with the final round glitch and burn time, it excels over ever weapon in the game by a wide margin. The Last Word had a bugged aim down sights that resulted in 111 headshot damage. 1 true high impact shotgun existed, so you didn't see them often, but the rangefinder+shotpackage needed to be removed. Final round on snipers with AP rounds and abundance of special meant no risk for dumping bullets to proc perk. Vex mythoclast was a monster. Heavy ammo persisted too much. Y2: This was the closest to balance we got. Pulses dominated, thorn could three tap to body, TLW could hipfire 2 tap, doctrine was a monster, and Mida was a flinch machine. Shotguns were consistent. Fusions were slightly weak without optimal rolls. Snipers could roll replenish and had more viable perk options. Sniper lucky round needed to go. Handcannons did not require rifled barrel/send it. Heavy ammo was less prevalent. Y3: Special ammo workarounds outvalue primary weapons. Primaries are too inconsistent to use without an ability to prime. Clever dragon flinched too much, and had few drawbacks. Most primary weapons needed specific perks to be viable. Exotics are almost universally worse than legendaries despite the unique perksets. In essence, Was anything I said not true? Bungie missed the mark regarding balance. It's not a youtubers fault for stating the obvious then explaining it in terms of ttk, range, and ease of use. [i]If you think a youtuber is complaining just bc they feel like it, then unsubscribe to weaken their reach and audience.[/i]

It isn't the streamers, it is everyone. Literally...everyone who has touched PVP in Destiny...is responsible for the meta shifts.

Anyone who argues they don't increase the rapid growth of a meta, hasn't thought about it. They don't create the meta, per say, they just publicize it.

Make all the weapons have the same time to kill, then it won't matter what weapon you use. It will be more which is good for close, long or mid range.

People do tend to mindlessly use whatever weapons a streamer tells them to because they think it will make them "good"...that's why all you see is palindrome, wormwood, eyasluna, and icebreaker. Fun is more important than the meta to me, that's why I still rock TLW and Longbow. Thumbskill means more than meta imo....[i]to each his own![/i]

God, threads like this is why the b.net community gets such a bad name. [b][i][u]The state of the game is not because of streamers.[/u][/i][/b] There is more threads on here giving god awful feedback than there are streamers or YouTubers making videos offering their feedback. Not to mention, at the end of the day [b][i][u]bungie[/u][/i][/b] are the ones who make the decisions for sandbox changes. Doesn't matter who or how much feedback they're getting, they're going to change the game how they see fit. Christ man, b.net has got to get over streamers. Especially the generalization. Sure, some of them give pretty iffy feedback, but that doesn't mean all of them do.

i dont have a problem with streamers becoming semi celebrities , and having some influence on what bungie decides to make the meta mitsurugi has established a new meta, the parthian shot meta even close range my parthian consistently beats eyasluna and palindrome