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7/24/2004 12:40:22 AM
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Bungie Weekly Update!!!

[b]July 23, 2004[/b] It's been a busy, busy week. So busy in fact, and so crunchtacular, that basically nobody is really available to chat this week. Sorry. Don't yell/flame/freak out. Sketch was out in New York being a muckety-muck all week, and I got roped into another classic Parsons travel-trap. It involves a passport, and some international shenanigans. Think sauerbraten. Anyway, lots going on in the studio, and I've been playing through a very nice-looking build of the game. I noticed the skyboxes are looking amazing. Skyboxes are basically the sky (duh) designed to look 3D with flitting clouds, translucent fog and a feeling of real space and height. One in particular made me actually gasp as I looked up. 'Gasp!" went I. The skyboxes are often fixed later in the polishing process and a bunch of the placeholders have had big holes in the center for a long time. Probably the ozone layer or something. Anyway, placeholders are becoming rarer and rarer. There's even a placeholder sound. A startling, yet melodic tinkle accompanies any footstep on an undefined texture – that is to say, a texture that hasn't yet has a footstep sound associated with it. I kinda miss the tinkle on multiplayer maps, since it loudly announced when somebody was walking in certain areas. Which you would then blast. With a Brute Shot. "Tinkle, tinkle, tinkle. Whump, whump, whump. Blam! Blam! Blam! Ow." Marty also let me hear one of the new pieces of finished music from the game. It was perfect. Totally inspiring, a soaring cavalcade of angelic ecstasy, tempered with just a hint of mournful longng, and all this to a totally danceable Euro-technobeat….I'm just kidding Marty. It was great. Last week's experimental foray to the Penny Arcade forums was a roaring success, if that is, you judge success by the number of flames, death-threats and pictures of distended sphincters you get. The Penny Arcade guys (who fear to tread there themselves and are super-nice) actually warned me, but by then it was too late. I read about 40 pages of angry flames before I realized that I had no idea what they were mad about. They were complaining about the arrival of the "noobz" yet only a couple of percent of the posts were actually by "noobz." It was a self-powered nightmare, but we all had a good laugh. I've actually been playing more and more of the single player campaign, but last night, playing multiplayer, through my own crappy connection, I noticed nothing. No slowdown, no lag and no garbled voices. It was like playing on a LAN. Wonders never cease. I hope that's typical of how it will be in the retail game. In single player, I'm being distracted by the lovely environments of course, but also by the amount of interaction there is in the levels. There's a lot more use of cover, by both good guys and bad guys, but there are other ways you interact with the environments that are both novel and old-school, simultaneously…. And on that graphics whore note, I noticed two new types of water. One shallow, one deep. Both lovely. Splish splash. I sure do love game water. My favorite all time non-Halo game water? The icy pool in Dead or Alive 3. Brrrr! [b]Adrian Perez[/b] Adrian's bug-fixing has reached something of a crescendo. "Every week we get closer to finishing, which means that every week the bugs I’m fixing are less and less critical.  This also has the unfortunate side effect of making them less and less interesting to talk about.  I added a few gravy features to the HUD so that Dave can work his magic, fixed a few lightmap problems that have been plaguing us since the beginning of time, and fixed a couple dozen miscellaneous bugs.  One cool thing I did was allow the designers script control over the damaging of specific sections in a model.  If they want some scripted event where the left tire of a warthog explodes and goes tumbling away, they will have a lot more control."  [b]Chris Carney[/b] Our multiplayer maven is tweaking, tuning, fixing and hammering on the multiplayer levels.   "Concerning updates, Steve “Land of “ Cotton and I have been spending our waking moments trying to finish up all of new content by next Friday (i.e. content complete).  Included in this last mad dash is some familiar lands, and yes, I can not be more specific.  But let’s just say that we have been spending some serious time with some old friends.  In addition, we are going through all of our maps to try and finalize any outstanding game play elements, and are also deeply involved in polishing the art in the environments to a fine glossy sheen.  One of our major goals in Halo 2 multiplayer is to have at least one or two of the new maps look as shiny as Butkus’s car."   Bam.   [b]David Candland[/b] Our User Interface maestro is getting seriously down and dirty with icons, iconography and iconification.   "This was the week of icons, icons, and more icons. First off, I updated the Xbox Live icons in the friends, clan, and players menus. We needed a special icon to represent a specific team member. Max suggested adding a large sombrero or foam cowboy hat to the friend icon. Although I laughed initially nothing better popped into my head. Fine, sombrero it is…for now. Next, another throwback to the Myth days. Our player level system is getting icons based on the Covenant caste structure. You will soon be able to see how good a player is just by looking at his rank icon.   Lastly, I’m working on refining some of the custom player emblems that don’t read well at small sizes. Sorry, but I’m afraid the shrunken head has got to go. Event horizon is borderline. Flaming Ninja has won the battle of emotional attachment over legibility. He’s in.   So, that's it until next week, when I'll recount my mysterious trip. I know it was short, and a bit limp, so I'll make it up to you next week. Until then, here's Mister Chief reacting to a skybox. It's more of a scream than a gasp… [img]http://www.bungie.net/images/News/InlineImages/misterchiefscream.jpg[/img]

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  • For Diablo: No, we're positive it was bungie, because of the link from the Halo 2 Movie trailer (no hacker could do that to a national movie trailer and bungie would miss it) and some of the texts written on Ilovebees. Por ejemplo: some of the random writing in the background is written like a script with one of the characters being an ONI officer/technician. If you read the books, ONI is the Office of Naval Intelligence (methinks), and the title of a bungie game, so the idea of ilovebees not being bungie is pretty much out of question. As for the countdown? Who knows, we do know it is not an early release, that would just be bad marketing, and then Peter Moore would have gotten his tattoo for nothing. The theory about a singleplayer demo makes sense to me though. One thing I haven't heard anyone mention, however, is EGM. Their issues usually arriver at their subscribers homes (i.e. me) around the 24th of the month, and they've been buzzing about their "top secret cover story" coming up next month. Related? Eh, maybe, maybe not, but the idea of a Single Player Demo of Halo 2 coming with my next issue of EGM puts a permanent smile on my face. See look, here it is: :) Edit: Sigh, that's what i get for being ignorant and not reading the rest of the pages, Frankie already bashed on the Halo 2 Demo idea, but hey, the top secret EGM (Not OXM) cover story still holds weight . [Edited on 8/3/2004 7:01:54 PM]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mthddirector your research skills would benefit from more than just a cursory glance - if you read before that post, you might notice I was referring to a tattoo, and not a release date[/quote] Yeah, I blew that one. Sorry, I was a bit punch-drunk. But this point: [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Anton P Nym All sources of information are not equal. The [i]Weekly World News[/i], though more reliable than [i]FOX News[/i], is not as good a source as [i]The New York Times[/i] or [i]The Washington Post[/i].[/quote] That's still valid. I wouldn't put much faith in a blog until I see it verified from a couple of other sources. Of course, that depends upon the blog... if it was from a Bungie employee, it'd have some reliablity; if it's from Anonymous, then it's almost as reliable as those h3rbal \/iagr4 emails my spam detectors keep deleting. We do agree on the Halo 2 marketing plan; November is just too good a date for a premiere release. I hope we also agree that the ILB puzzle is still worth solving on its own merits; the story in it is starting to look interesting. -- Steve hopes that things will get a bit more civil and restful here, now that the overhype is gone.

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  • so i guess the i love bees thing wasnt bungie

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  • Bull-blam!-! I will not believe it until Aug. 24th

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Anton P Nym [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mthddirector no he/she's right it was a fake one, according to a blog I just read[/quote] Was that the one with the Batboy sightings, or the one with the all-celery diet turning Rosanne into a Celine Dion lookalike? *sheesh* All sources of information are not equal. The [i]Weekly World News[/i], though more reliable than [i]FOX News[/i], is not as good a source as [i]The New York Times[/i] or [i]The Washington Post[/i].[/quote] your research skills would benefit from more than just a cursory glance - if you read before that post, you might notice I was referring to a tattoo, and not a release date November 9 is set in stone. It makes no business sense for Microsoft to announce a release date at E3 for their premier franchise (for which it has already pre-sold 1 million copies), and then decide to bump it up by 3 and a half months. From a marketing standpoint alone, there's no upside to doing that. A fall, pre-holiday release for a product which has high consumer demand equals huge sales. Think PS2 when it was, er, released or not exactly released for the holidays a while back. Sony ate its shorts on that one, for not being able to keep up with consumer demand. This bees thing is just a prelude to a marketing blitz that will peak around October. [Edited on 8/3/2004 6:17:54 PM]

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  • Okay guys lets stop this now and wait to see what happens on the tenth and twenty-fourth and I'm spelling all these numbers because the number four key on my keyboard when I push it it doesn't register. but well just have to wait and see and also what about all the text on the ilovebees website I want to know that that is for. because when I read it it sounds to me like a part of the storyline for halo 2

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] exomniac I don't understand how any Halo fan can find this news exciting. It almost seems like the ability to go out and legitimately flame "believers" is more important than getting to play this game as soon as possible.[/quote] You're looking at this from the wrong angle. Those of us who've been trying to rein in the "early release" rumours knew that there would be no early release. There's no solid evidence pointing to it, just a lot of speculation and reinterpretation of facts, and there's tons of evidence pointing away from it, like the date printed on the friggin' trailer. [b]THERE WAS NEVER A CHANCE OF AN AUGUST RELEASE. EVER.[/b] Frankie is merely confirming that November 9th/11th is the release date... he's not holding it back. I knew that if this thing went on unchecked there'd be a LOT of disappointed fans come August. (Frankly, no pun intended, I don't know why it was left this long.) So I kept pointing out the evidence against this, and SO MANY kept ignoring it or shouting it down with a bunch of ill-reasoned gibberish. The Germans have a word for it, [i]schadenfreude[/i]: taking joy in the misfortune of others. (English promptly jacked it, as English is wont to do.) It's hard to avoid schadenfreude when you've been right all along and seen so much abuse for it. That doesn't make it right, I admit. It's not that I'm happy we won't get Halo 2 in August; I'm happy that there's no longer the false expectation of it, so we can get back to thinking about what [i]is[/i] possible. -- Steve's hoping that a lot of people learn from this, but he's realistic enough to know that most won't. (He's too young to be that cynical.)

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  • Game. Ova. I can now sleep at night.

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  • I'm not going to get my hopes up for August 24th. But, the only person that will confirm that Halo 2/Halo 2 Demo is not coming out on the 24th for me, is Bill Gates. [Edited on 8/3/2004 5:55:07 PM]

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  • [quote]Finally someone from Bungie has confirmed that Halo 2 will not come out August 24! Now all you stupid people who kept saying Halo 2 is coming out August 24 can be quiet! Frankie confirmed it so, it is true. HALO 2 COMES OUT NOVEMBER 9th AND NOVEMBER 11th FOR THE U.K.! NOT AUGUST 24! November 9th people. So let all of these August 24th rumours die.[/quote] Just like I and others thought. CUT OUT THE FLAMMIN! That is not right to flame then man. Keep ur yellin and shoutin to urself please!

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  • You should edit and put in the US somewhere in there, so it doesn't just look like you're talking about the UK. Cause some guys will say "well, he never did talk about the US release, just the release date for the UK." Peace! [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frankie Halo 2 comes out on Nov. 9th or Nov. 11th for the UK. It does NOT come out on Aug 24th. You know what does come out on Aug. 24th? Some OXM special which does NOT, and I repeat does NOT have a Halo 2 demo on it. No clue how that rumor gained so much momentum. But to reiterate, Halo 2 comes out Nov. 9th or Nov.11th for the UK. Sigh. [/quote] [Edited on 8/3/2004 5:42:04 PM]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frankie Halo 2 comes out on Nov. 9th or Nov. 11th for the UK. It does NOT come out on Aug 24th. You know what does come out on Aug. 24th? Some OXM special which does NOT, and I repeat does NOT have a Halo 2 demo on it. No clue how that rumor gained so much momentum. But to reiterate, Halo 2 comes out Nov. 9th or Nov.11th for the UK. Sigh. [/quote] [b]Finally[/b] someone from Bungie has confirmed that Halo 2 will not come out August 24! Now all you stupid people who kept saying Halo 2 is coming out August 24 can be quiet! Frankie confirmed it so, it is true. [color=red][b]HALO 2 COMES OUT NOVEMBER 9th AND NOVEMBER 11th FOR THE U.K.! NOT AUGUST 24![/b][/color] November 9th people. So let all of these August 24th rumours die.

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  • U kno, if there is no demo, what is happening on the 24th?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mthddirector no he/she's right it was a fake one, according to a blog I just read[/quote] Was that the one with the Batboy sightings, or the one with the all-celery diet turning Rosanne into a Celine Dion lookalike? *sheesh* All sources of information are not equal. The [i]Weekly World News[/i], though more reliable than [i]FOX News[/i], is not as good a source as [i]The New York Times[/i] or [i]The Washington Post[/i]. I'd think that Frankie would be in a better position than Joe Blogger (who can remain virtually anonymous if he/she/it wishes) to know the release date of Halo 2. I doubt that you'll learn the hazards of letting wishes cloud your thinking from this little exercise, but perhaps you'll start thinking about who's telling you what, and why, from now on? -- Steve attempts to fan whatever faint embers of criticality he finds into the flickering flames of reason.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] exomniac Frankie, if you really do have"no clue how that rumor gained so much momentum", I'm pretty sure you missed something. I don't understand how any Halo fan can find this news exciting. It almost seems like the ability to go out and legitimately flame "believers" is more important than getting to play this game as soon as possible.[/quote] Well, its good news for me since it will put an end to these crappy ILB threads, they have ruined most of the actual discussion about H2. I can't even comprehend why people were thinking halo 2 was coming out early...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HaloFanticMike Why would Frankie say he has no clue as to why people are so hyped for Aug 24? Every single post in this forum is about ilovebees, you have to be living under a rock not to know this...for christ sakes there was a 31 page thread on the topic with in big bold letters ILOVEBEES on it!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote] They are working on Halo2... and that's what they SHOULD do, not always reading this forum that's filled with intelligent posts. As for you people who don't believe Frankie, and wants him to prove it... I can't understand what you possibly could want for proof... Frankie works for Bungie, isn't that good enough? [Edited on 8/3/2004 5:38:46 PM]

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  • no he/she's right it was a fake one, according to a blog I just read

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  • Lets ask! frankie! was it a real tattoo or a fake one? xD

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  • NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No demo! Sigh.... Frankie, unfortunately you may just be setting yourslef up for more speculation....

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frankie No clue how that rumor gained so much momentum. But to reiterate, Halo 2 comes out Nov. 9th or Nov.11th for the UK.[/quote] Never underestimate the power of wistful thinking. That's all I can say on that. Thanks for putting the official brakes on this. The gentle blandishments of logic (and the butt-stompings of insults) I've been using haven't succeeded in stopping the headlong conclusion-jumping. Maybe this'll do it. -- Steve realises that it may require a front-pager, though. Or perhaps firey letters in the sky, or Chuck Heston in a fright-wig coming down from a mountain.

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  • "This is a REAL TATTOO." For the last time, it wasn't a real tattoo.

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  • that's right prove it and what about the tenth wheen it says In 7 days this medium will metastasize and counts down every day until the tenth. and when you change your computer clock to the twenty fourth (screw this computer keyboard the number four is broken) the counter counts up instead of down [Edited on 8/3/2004 5:15:31 PM]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frankie Halo 2 comes out on Nov. 9th or Nov. 11th for the UK. It does NOT come out on Aug 24th. You know what does come out on Aug. 24th? Some OXM special which does NOT, and I repeat does NOT have a Halo 2 demo on it. No clue how that rumor gained so much momentum. But to reiterate, Halo 2 comes out Nov. 9th or Nov.11th for the UK. Sigh. [/quote] prove it......

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  • ok Maybe August 24 is Margaret's birthday, and we're all going to celebrate and eat honey [Edited on 8/3/2004 5:25:38 PM]

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  • me neither

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  • i dont believe him until the ilb thing is over.

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