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Reason Why Destiny 2 Is 30 FPS On Console

Bungie explains why Destiny 2 is 30 FPS on consoles, even the PS4 Pro (CPU limits) Originally Posted by IGN IGN: "Why did you make that decision. You're like 'We're going to lock it at 4K/30 max on consoles.' Is it just like, you don't want to push the consoles too hard, or why do you make that choice?" Luke Smith: "I mean, I'm going to wade into this, and you [Mark Noseworthy] can flesh it out. The console, the PS4 Pro is super powerful, but it couldn't run our game at 60. Our game's this rich physics simulation where collision of players, networking, etc, and like, it wouldn't run." IGN: "Yeah, makes sense." Luke Smith: "Not enough horsepower there." Mark Noseworthy: "But there's tons of GPU power in the PS4 Pro. That's why we're doing 4K, right? It's on the CPU side. Destiny's simulation, like we have more AI, more monsters in an environment with physically simulated vehicles and characters and projectiles, and it's part of the Destiny magic, like that, like 30 seocnds of fun, like coming around a corner and throwing a grenade, popping a guy in the head, and then you add like 5, 6, 7 other players in a public event; that is incredibly intensive for hardware." Thanks to bcookie1 for the info
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  • So why couldn't they bump up the framerate just for crucible? There's obviously not as much going on in PvP vs PvE. Did it just not occur to them? Haven't other titles done something similar like with Gears of War 4, I'm pretty sure they knew the console couldn't handle the campaign at 60fps but the multiplayer could. Competitive shooters should absolutely not be locked at 30fps. I'm going to want this game on PC for the uncapped framerate, but it's going to suck because it won't be available until mid October for whatever reason that I can't comprehend. Not to mention the content that will be exclusive to PS4 for at least a year which is just anti consumer. I could rant for like an hour about this bullshit, but I'd be wasting my time.

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  • Cancelled my pre-order

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  • Edited by CaffeinatedComa: 5/18/2017 10:55:42 PM
    It's ridiculous in the sense that for 3 years it was made abundantly clear that this game needed dedicated servers to flourish. 30 FPS was just a slap in the face. Expect just as many trades in D2.

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    • The game engine is old with a mess of code... The engine was not re done from scratch.. Honestly this is more like a expansion with some added particle effects. Watch the strike, the engine chugs at 30 fps. This engine was designed for 360/PS3 days.

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      • Same reason as no Regional Dedicated Host Servers - lazy and incompetent. BungleVision is still stuck in 2008 era when playing halo with Peer To Peer One Console was host was "okay". 10+ years later it isn't okay and other than "Andromeda Mass Effect" and "For Honor" (those did real well didn't't they folks?), those are the only major Titles using Peer to Peer One Console as Host networking. Unless Destiny 2 has Regional Dedicated Host Servers, I will not be buying it.

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        • 30 fps, no dedicated servers and same refresh rate Except DDOS, glitching/exploits to become even more popular in d2

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          • This game had such great potential.... too bad they have clowns running the show

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            • I'm not too big of an FPS guy.. but it was a bit sad seeing that.

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              • Bump. It's absurd. At least Pro patch it

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                • I know Noseworthy probably has a lot of people kissing his ass but kinda just wanna punch him in the face.

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                • Where's my 720p brothas at?

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                • I'm curious why they didn't ask about pushing 60fps at 1080. No one has seemed to ask that question.

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                  • At least it's not [b]forever 29[/b] fps ;) [spoiler]I'll se myself out[/spoiler]

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                    • Where is this said?

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                      • How about this ? Ask you self first this before you asking about stupid fps. 1: how many ppl have latest version of PS4 pro ???? 2: and how many ppl have displays ( tv's ) that can support latest formats ? I bet no many . To be honest PS4 can run 60 fps easy but my opinion is to be easy for them they will make destiny 2 in same format for all PS4 's and PS4 pro's .

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                        • [quote]PS4 Pro is super powerful,[/quote] ... [quote]"Not enough horsepower there."[/quote] [quote]IGN: "Yeah, makes sense."[/quote]

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                          • They need to just do 1080 p at 60. Most people don't have 4k.

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                          • IGN interview with Luke Smith. He said PS Pro CANNOT do 60 FPS at 4K resolution on Destiny

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                            • Because dropping "last gen" would solve all of our problems. Oh, how gullible those fools were.

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                            • Bungie explains why Destiny 2 is 30 FPS on consoles, even the PS4 Pro (CPU limits) Originally Posted by IGN IGN: "Why did you make that decision. You're like 'We're going to lock it at 4K/30 max on consoles.' Is it just like, you don't want to push the consoles too hard, or why do you make that choice?" Luke Smith: "I mean, I'm going to wade into this, and you [Mark Noseworthy] can flesh it out. The console, the PS4 Pro is super powerful, but it couldn't run our game at 60. Our game's this rich physics simulation where collision of players, networking, etc, and like, it wouldn't run." IGN: "Yeah, makes sense." Luke Smith: "Not enough horsepower there." Mark Noseworthy: "But there's tons of GPU power in the PS4 Pro. That's why we're doing 4K, right? It's on the CPU side. Destiny's simulation, like we have more AI, more monsters in an environment with physically simulated vehicles and characters and projectiles, and it's part of the Destiny magic, like that, like 30 seocnds of fun, like coming around a corner and throwing a grenade, popping a guy in the head, and then you add like 5, 6, 7 other players in a public event; that is incredibly intensive for hardware."

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                              • I honestly couldn't care lass, Destiny 1 plays amazing

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                              • I've always tried to figure out why I spent 400 dollars on a next gen console when many games never take advantage of the full hardware. 60 FPS 1080P shouldn't be impossible. Plenty of games do it. Just seems like any advancement of the medium is grinding to a halt on consoles. PC's have been able to hit this benchmark for years. Just seems kinda sad.

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                              • Who cares? I still don't see a difference between 30 and 60, and I'm actually [u]looking[/u] for one.

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                                • PS4 and Xbox one aren't powerful enough for destiny

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                                  • Lukes Smith came out and said that the ps4 pro couldnt handle 60 fps

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                                  • I'm praying for 60fps/1080p for consoles

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