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Edited by JzstNo:
5/7/2017 11:17:58 AM
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Petition to change Trials of Osiris in Destiny 2
As everyone is well aware trials has been a major influence in nerfs and buffs. I think the majority of the playerbase doesn't like trials or play it anymore. It was fun when it first came out and the games you get matched with are random people. Now it's complete trash and brings out the worst in people.
I think we can all agree that trials has had a negative impact on the game. So I say for destiny 2 we remove it and replace it with some other competitive pvp.
Edit - wow so many replies and likes. Thanks
Im not saying remove competitive pvp, I love watching sweats and high intensity games on YouTube and twitch, what I'm saying is elimination as a game mode brings out the worst in people and what's fun in being shouted at by team mates for making the wrong play in a important situation in a game of trials. I would like to see a trials game mode of skirmish or zone control, something competitive but not elimination. The top pvp players obviously like trials but that's a small percentage of the player base and the nerfs that affect PVE because of trials are ruining the game. Look at special ammo for example
Edit 2 cosmo replied. I'm done
Edit 3 to all the people saying trials should stay. I agree, the concept of trials of osiris should stay and it's good to have a competitive game mode that makes people want to try their best. What Im saying is the state that trials is in has caused a lot of messed up stuff in pve.
1) skorri nerf - in a raid we now have to wait double the time to get our supers before a boss
2) special ammo is all messed up
3) constant nerfs of weapons
The post was made with a view to change the way trials of osiris is like have either a skirmish, zone control, salvage or capture the flag sort of game where it's not just who can throw their sticky first and then jump the hell out of there. It's icebreaker/wormwood city at the moment.
Trials was good in HOW and I went to the Lighthouse 3x a week most weeks but now it has definitely declined and seems like a lot of people are not enjoying it as it is right now.
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[quote]Even though I used to love trials and have gone flawless almost 50 times, I can't help but agree that's it's had only detrimental effects on the game.
The nerfs attempted to 'balance' trials have seriously harmed pvp and pve. At no point ever were snipers a problem in pvp. Yet they received dozens of nerfs to bring them down for trials. This destroyed them in pvp and seriously harmed them in pve. It lead to the shotgun dominance we saw at the beginning of year 3. Which then lead to the nerf that completely destroyed their competitive viability I pve, pvp and trials.
The skorris nerf clearly aimed at trials hurt pve in the worst way. The Templar challenge mode is made drastically easier when you launch the encounter with full supers. The skorris nerf doubled the amount of time we had to wait for the Titan to get their bubble back.
Either trials need to be removed. Or all game modes need to be balanced separately.[/quote]
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[quote]As everyone is well aware trials has been a major influence in nerfs and buffs. I think the majority of the playerbase doesn't like trials or play it anymore. It was fun when it first came out and the games you get matched with are random people. Now it's complete trash and brings out the worst in people. I think we can all agree that trials has had a negative impact on the game. So I say for destiny 2 we remove it and replace it with some other competitive pvp. Edit - wow so many replies and likes. Thanks Im not saying remove competitive pvp, I love watching sweats and high intensity games on YouTube and twitch, what I'm saying is elimination as a game mode brings out the worst in people and what's fun in being shouted at by team mates for making the wrong play in a important situation in a game of trials. I would like to see a trials game mode of skirmish or zone control, something competitive but not elimination. The top pvp players obviously like trials but that's a small percentage of the player base and the nerfs that affect PVE because of trials are ruining the game. Look at special ammo for example Edit 2 cosmo replied. I'm done Edit 3 to all the people saying trials should stay. I agree, the concept of trials of osiris should stay and it's good to have a competitive game mode that makes people want to try their best. What Im saying is the state that trials is in has caused a lot of messed up stuff in pve. 1) skorri nerf - in a raid we now have to wait double the time to get our supers before a boss 2) special ammo is all messed up 3) constant nerfs of weapons The post was made with a view to change the way trials of osiris is like have either a skirmish, zone control, salvage or capture the flag sort of game where it's not just who can throw their sticky first and then jump the hell out of there. It's icebreaker/wormwood city at the moment. Trials was good in HOW and I went to the Lighthouse 3x a week most weeks but now it has definitely declined and seems like a lot of people are not enjoying it as it is right now.[/quote] Trials should be in D2 but with separate balancing from the rest of the game (and all other 3v3 modes)
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I like the fact that Trials has no bearing on the game its self, I never set foot in it and I could care less about it, I do care that people trying to manipulate the game, obsessed over winning a GAME ultimately affected changes that ruined other parts of the game itself. If Trials is still present have it be separated, weapons, armor and anything done there stays there.
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9 RepliesBut there is already an Osiris expansion so people will have to pay for trials
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Some great points, why don't bungie just release a spin off Stand alone game for trials.
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Trails should stay but bungie need to realise that letting one mode dictate the balance of a whole game is a bad idea.
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Trials was the single driving force for majority of the balance changes. And while some of them were needed, it seems silly to balance the entire game based off of one mode of play. Additionally, trials itself (elimination) isn't in itself a good competitive game mode, IMO. Regular skirmish seems like a far better choice and offers a much smoother flow of gameplay.
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If they don't remove it (or at least greatly improve it) Im going to be extremely disappointed
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7 RepliesI'm on board with just PvP in general not being a thing in D2, however I'll settle for at least this...
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37 RepliesAny inclusion of Pvp is the beginning of the end. It's the easiest way to give longevity to a game for smallest amount of effort and therefore thrives and becomes the main aspect of the game. I really wish they would focus on the fire team, co-op side of the game. There are plenty of pvp games to choose from out there, this doesn't need to be one.
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2 RepliesJesus H I got so annoyed with Trials yesterday, I shut the damn thing off and went and rented Mass Effect (which I actually like btw) I enjoy PVE over PVP in Destiny, I like both... But if you think PVE was nerfed because of Trials, and that's all that happened... You're wrong. Trials has nerfed the game, itself included. All it is now is Icebreaker and ability spam. It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen happen to this game.
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I agree it has to change so a majority likes to play it!
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10 RepliesJust remove pvp entirely, that way I dont have to think about getting the game. If not you need dedicated servers, a ranked system, and an actual balance or set loadout.
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If they can't fix it, then yes remove it
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I'll buy and play D2 regardless, but ToO is essentially the only thing I play in D1
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2 RepliesCrucible has alway been broken in Destiny. Soooooo boring right now, everyone walking around with a hand cannon and ice breaker...*yawn*... can't wait until november when C.O.D ww2 comes out and finally get some decent multiplayer to play again.
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Edited by NobodyJustBrad: 5/6/2017 3:29:46 PM#1 should even be a complaint. Killing enemies has ALWAYS been the fastest way to get your super back. If you really think the nerf to Skorri is bad, especially if THAT is your reasoning, you are just bad at the game. Period.
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I'm a PvPer, wasn't always a PvPer. I hated PvP in Destiny back in year one. But I ran out of things to do PvE wise in year one so I stared playing PvP and it grew on me. I'm by no means anywhere near as good as the top PvPers like TrueVanguard, mtashed, etc. but I'd consider myself to be above average in the crucible. I agree that trials needs to be tweaked. I'll admit that PvP, especially in trials, has been the cause of PvE nerfs that weren't warranted. Bungie can definitely go about doing things better. Hopefully they learn from Destiny 1's PvP/PvE issues and properly address them for Destiny 2's PvP/PvE.
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Yes, or at least, it has to be a mode that were played whit a determinated loadout to avoid nerfs on pve
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Hell the f*ck no. You're not taking that from us.
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Its okay being a virgin
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3 RepliesNo!! No! -blam!- you! Trials is the only shit I play!
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Trials is the most exciting part of this game... I've only been flawless like 11-12 times total since it became available I still have fun playing it.
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4 RepliesDont remove trials but add a tier system instead
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[quote]Trials was good in HOW and I went to the Lighthouse 3x a week most weeks but now it has definitely declined and seems like a lot of people are not enjoying it as it is right now.[/quote] This is my experience to a degree. I think the real cause of the changes is the playerbase shrinking. When trials first released there was a large variety of players. As the playerbase shrinks, only the most dedicated players remain meaning the matches get far harder and winning becomes far more difficult. I think that reaching the lighthouse was perhaps a bit TOO difficult in Destiny 1, to the point where for many it is easier to pay than to win from your own efforts. Having a system where a larger % of the community would make it in a week would make it more accessible and give lower skilled players more incentive to play. I don't mean the other extreme where EVERYONE gets a medal, just a little more balanced than it is now...
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Trials would be fine if on servers and not P2P. Also everyone needs to accept its for the higher level players, its not for everyone. But yeah, its current iteration should do the world a favour and get off.
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Thats retarted
