Agreed. Y1 crucible was decent everything seems nicely balanced with just a few perks that could use some tweeking. Then you could get kills with virtually any gun and still be competitive but now......now you rarely see certain guns, some guns run the crucible to the point if you dont have it youre going to bottom scoreboard everytime. If you break it down there are only 3 or 4 of each gun type. Archetypes as they call them. So basically there only 3-4 guns and the rest are purely reskins. Perks mean everything so it takes away from that "great feeling" when you finally rng the gun you want but the roll is shit so you cant use it....boom....3 legendary marks for days upon weeks of grinding. Nothing to show for it. Thats why destiny needed a trade system yr 1 day 1. The only things every really worth working for are exotics cause they will always be the same. But legendaries will change so much you either get absolute crap or a god roll....if it wont compete 3 legendary marks, if youre full on marks.....materials. There is no true gun skill in destiny, between massive aim assists and perks it takes so much skill away from it and throws it all in to the gun. Bad gun? Bad game play. Good gun? Good game play. CoD, battlefield, titanfall, halo, CS, all the other fps games (cause thats basically what destiny is its not mmorpg at all) decided to pick guns, give them stats, and say ok....go shoot them. They see guns that are being picked alot, they nerf them or buff others to try and make the game as equal as possible so that everyone has the same chance in a gun fight as far as dps, ttk ect ect. A lvl 4 can stomp the piss out of a lvl 100 with a completely different gun everytime. Level doesnt matter, perks dont matter it breaks down to straight gun lkay who can aim, shoot, and out manuver better. Not who got lucky with rng. Thats why when i see people brag about kd or knock someone down about kd or ELO in destiny i just laugh cause its a fake statistic basically. YOU didnt do shit but pull the trigger the PERKS did everything else for you