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4/20/2017 2:35:45 PM
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[quote]So... all titan classes on Titan are more or less the same. With blink nerf you can say the sane about warlock. Hunter? Same. Maybe with the exception of shadestep. The hell you talking about?[/quote]
Sorry I am just waking up so I am in and out hahaha.
Maybe you don't get what Im saying so Ill try and clarify.
The Subs with stickies, in this case fusion, are Sunbreaker and Sunsinger.
Neither has a movement perk on their tree. So when they get into a gunfight they have to win or die. Other subclasses have mobilty perks that can help them get the drop or flee in a gunbattle. Sunbreakers and Sunsingers don't have these options.
If you just single out the grenade it's easy to criticize it. It may also be a pain when someone is using it on you. But keep in mind it is only 1 part of a bigger picture.
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Do you even pvp bro?
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[quote]Do you even pvp bro?[/quote] Stormcaller has a ranged melee to assist. Of course people cry because they never look at everything. Blade does have blink that is true. Their grenade has to hit the target to stick I believe. That makes it a bit different. It is a regular grenade first and does additional damage when stuck. I do play PvP a lot but my kids use the titan and hunter. I only play the Sunsinger because they are young. When I shared all slots they were selling my gear and whatnot lol. I love trying new stuff and am always mixing it up. I used to shotgun rush with Brimstone/Sunburst. Then everyone was shotgunning and I wanted to do something new so I transitioned to Angel of Light and Solar wind. Here is a 7min clip of a game I played last night. I use fusions but mainly as a scare tatic or to punish someone moving in.
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So how do you use a sticky as a scare tactic?
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Edited by SactownNoob: 4/20/2017 3:03:15 PM[quote]So how do you use a sticky as a scare tactic?[/quote] I establish it early so people are aware I have it. Then when I am rushing in or retreating I fling them and people hesitate. That buys me my time to close the gap or run away. I have actually been using bolts a lot also. My first love was solar grenades. People play with more range these days so they are more aware now. It seems less effective. In that clip I have no super and I am using a fusion rifle. Trust me when I say I am not using fusion grenades to get my kills and I don't play the easy perks or loads. Watch the clip in the other post.
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You could throw any other grenade to "scare" like that.
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[quote]You could throw any other grenade to "scare" like that.[/quote] Nope. The other grenades arent one hit kills. People adjust mentally much better. Also due to changes in the subclass fusions are the only viable option if you can't use burn. Because I use build without burn or flameshield or even self res the other grenades wont work for me.
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So why would you mind if they removed aim assist on fusions?
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[quote]So why would you mind if they removed aim assist on fusions?[/quote] Mainly because it is not fair to accomidate people that don't want to adjust or learn. They don't care why it is there or how what they do effects me or my play. They have a narrow view and I don't support changes that don't have a valid point. I stopped relying on fusions because they are very easy to juke. Good players actually just jump out the stick. Its really annoying. The aim assist also helps the mental scare of the grenade and in cases where Im tagging a sniper from a distance it can help. In reality I wouldn't mind a great deal if I thought it would make people stop blaming things. But today it is fusions, tomorrow it's something else. All classes and subs have crutches. They are all counterable and I don't an issue. Learn to explout the subclasses weakness and their crutch won't matter.
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And what counterplay do you have agains stickies? You get stuck, you die. Period.
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[quote]And what counterplay do you have agains stickies? You get stuck, you die. Period.[/quote] I rarely die from stickies. Not in any amount that it makes me hate them. From time to time I do get some stick happy clown in a game and I adjust. I die more from axion bolts and lighting grenades than stickies.
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You can slide into axions to counter them. Or just outrun. Lighning needs two ticks to kill so you can move out. Still the range on lightning is a bit cheese I admit.
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[quote]You can slide into axions to counter them. Or just outrun. Lighning needs two ticks to kill so you can move out. Still the range on lightning is a bit cheese I admit.[/quote] No they are fine imo. They are tools in that gaurdians arsenal. I don't have beef with them. I just get hammered by them more because the guardians using them are using them to force/limit my movements. Its a strategy just like mine haha
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I told you what the counters were.
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[quote]I told you what the counters were.[/quote] I wasn't asking for them but TY =)
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Well at least someone is helpful since I asked about counters to tetting stuck and you didnt answer. You just said you die more because of axion/ lightning so I decided to help you.
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Counters to being stuck: Strafe Jump Don't run at enemies in a straight line Don't be obvious with your movements Shotguns Counter with other nades-even stickies Super abilities Hunter: shadestep/blink Titan: Twilight garrison Warlock: Ranged melee If you got stuck, it isn't cause the grenade is "too good" its because you didn't out smart your opponent.
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Let me put it this way. This grenade requires lttle risk and skill compared to possible gains.
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Little risk? Are you delusional? If you miss... the grenade will tickle your enemies feet. Tickle bro. That's called a high risk/high reward. It requires you to stick your enemies....anything else, and you lost that grenade, and potentially got yourself killed. Get the f outta here with "little risk" bs that you cant even back up.
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Edited by Sawosz: 4/20/2017 9:04:02 PMHigh risk/ high reward is shotgun. Its easy to miss other grenades too. Most grenades that seek people arent ohk. Gtfo with claiming that missing a grenade gets you killed.
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Now you want to argue on a side tangent.... Which to me only means you realize you cant support your BS and are now reverting to diversion tactics.
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The feck are you talking about? Its you who said that stickies are high risk because you can miss them and that risks your life.
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Its funny cause you got owned and you know it. lol.
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Not even close
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But you're not realy good at acomodating yourself otherwise you would have a better kd?
