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3/29/2017 10:24:47 PM
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Handcannon ADS Nerf is 4.5m, not 3m
Bungie uses hip fire as the baseline when adding or reducing range. The base zoom for the handcannon is 1.5x. 1.5x3 = a total of a 4.5m ADS reduction. It changes what we initially thought. I go over prelim ranges for rifled (cap 62 range) which is 23-23.4m. Also the max range is 26m with rangefinder added to do 86 to the head. The nerf was always for the big 3. Palindrome, Eyasluna, Peril. But, what do you think about this nerf to high rate of fire and low rate of fire handcannons?
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So I went into a rumble match the other day with a scout and sniper on Blind Watch. I was getting decimated. Everyone was running hand cannon and Sidearm. So I switched to Lord high fixer and jaberhakke, it was too late to make a push back for the win but I did end up getting a 1.25 and had a nice run where I was only being killed by supers. I wasn't getting outgunned after I switched. Handcannons are just really good although I feel like the last word got ninja nerfed. And sidearms are sidearms, quick ttk.
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Time to use scouts.
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1 ReplyYeah this patch pretty much ruined my favorite gun. The last word is pretty trash right now. Gets outgunned by sidearms in its optimal range, can't compete with anything past 10 meters. TLW isn't the only handcannon effected, pretty much any handcannon that's not a Luna or Pali with rangefinder sucks now. Thank god I have my god rolled Luna. Thank god. I wouldn't be playing this game right now if I didn't.
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4 RepliesSick of hand cannons killing at all ranges. Nerf em to the -blam!-ing dirt
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2 RepliesLmao and destiny 2 comes out this year time for a whole new game with a bad pvp team overseeing nerfs and buffs, ya I'm hyped for Destiny 2... Bet destiny 2 will keep the shit concept of infinite grenades on an adjustable cooldown.
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Yep josh hamdick at it again screwing things up for us all that play destiny well done asshats at bungie it gives me one more reason not to buy D2
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3 RepliesSo now that they've finally made range perks absolutely necessary.. we're only going to see more Eyasluna and Palindrome. How do they not get that? ANY hand cannon with shit range before is absolutely useless now. Most Omolon cannons, and every single one without a range perk is garbage in PvE now. Absolute garbage. It's getting to the point where we'll be doing good damage at good range only if the primary burn modifier is on.
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Nerfed to the ground. People still using handcanons because they are fun to use. Don't know when bungo will stop this exaggerated nerf stuff. They don't stop til nerf to the ground...
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7 RepliesWelp, that sucks. No point in using any handcannon below 58 range. There goes Hawkmoon, Fatebringer, or any handcannon other than an Eyasluna or Palindrome. Congrats. In another failed attempt to kill the effectiveness of a few high range ones, they've only managed to pigeonhole everyone, who actually wants to use literally [i]any[/i] other handcannon, into only using those. F[i]u[/i]cking morons. They could have capped the max range, and increase the base range stat of the lower ranged handcannons, including the high rate of fire archetype, but nope, let's just do a nerf to the entire weapon class. Screw anyone that actually wants to use a handcannon because they like them, not just because they're "meta". Welp, at least we still have pulse rifles.
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55 RepliesWtf is the point of my even playing vog now to get a fatebringer again for pve ??? Typical pvp screwing pve.
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Edited by Orbital Drop Shock Trooper: 3/31/2017 11:05:14 PMHC will keep getting nerfs until they become unviable because top-tier players have always prefered HC's in general. Bungie's way of forcing players to change their style of play is what ruined D1 PvP. Meta's come and go, but the continued attack on HCs and Snipers is basically telling us, 'we don't want you to play the game this way'. That's a problem when you give players variety but you force them to narrow their choices to the ones you specifically tailor to effectively selling dreams and providing false choices. 'Like you can have the water gun but we just won't give you water, we'll put in air instead'. But its still fair because you have the choice...
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HCs are god tier already
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10 RepliesAnd here was me all excited that I'd just dropped a Luna with: Sureshot Rifled barrel Rangefinder Litc 😒
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I posted about it linked your vid I'm spreading the word
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7 RepliesThis is sad, now my favorite HC (TDYK) completely sucks and feels like it shoots marshmallows.. Cheer me up coolguy :(
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2 RepliesEdited by Doc: 3/31/2017 3:37:45 PMIdk why they don't nerf perks like rifled barrel rather then just base range on all hand cannons. All they do is make perks like rifled the better option.
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4 RepliesEdited by magburner: 3/31/2017 9:38:48 AMWhen are we going to stop listening to Youtubers. If you want to blame anyone for the state of hand cannons now, blame triplewreck? He was instrumental in building a movement of Guardians who pushed for the increase in initial accuracy. In exchange, they asked for damage falloff. I was vocal in opposition to these changes, unfortunately there were more sheeple who believed that triplewreck was right, and had the answers to their low level skills. BUNGIE listened, and did what was asked. Thanks for that triplewreck!
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28 RepliesIt honestly needs to be like 7 Meter drop with Rifled Barrel offering less Range for more Reload. Hand Cannons are taking over all ranges. Pulse Rifles and Scouts can't compete.
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You said it yourself as well as anyone can. There are literally thousands of weapons in Destiny and by thousands I mean 5. Sorry for the poor version of the quote but it has this game in a nutshell and is one of the greatest weaknesses in it for those who actually think about what they are currently using.
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I mean. At least it's not 0.04m.
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They show have only touched the hand cannons in PVP. I think hand cannons should get a damage buff in PVE.
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Hopefully my ill will is still good
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5 Replies...and this deserves complaint why? Hand cannons are not long-range weapons. Stop treating changes to the range like they are being at all hurt by them. If this was a change to scout-rifles, then yes it would be bad. Hand cannons are not scout-rifles though.
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Edited by BR: 3/30/2017 8:04:55 PMSeems like they don't think about what it does to all the other hand cannons w already bad base range and less impact just makes the strong option the only option much like they did to shotguns and snipers and .... wait just about everything
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I've played against you and we lost lol 😂
