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6/17/2010 9:46:08 PM
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Never-Before-Seen Forerunner/Covenant Symbol
In the Hunter render (seen on the Halo Reach projects page) you see a small unidentified symbol on his right shoulder. It is either Forerunner or Covenant.
[url=http://www.bungie.net/projects/reach/images.aspx?c=53&page=0]pic[/url](Middle row, 4th down)
[Edited on 06.17.2010 2:23 PM PDT]
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DynamicVamp, I'm sure you will get a better response in the Universe. =)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zalo15 its covenant for "wide load"[/quote] Made me laugh. +1 Funny. If it is some sort of identification, maybe its identifying the pairs of hunters.. though that would mean every pair has a different symbol.. too many symbols.. SCRAP THAT IDEA! Maybe its their rank as a hunter? after all, there's different ranks of the other species, so why not have different rank hunters?
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Is it the BR reticule emblem you can get in Halo 3?
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its covenant for "wide load"
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Covenant design on his armor? Like trademarks, or to make it look nice?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALOHEROE15 Thats the mark of shame.[/quote][url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070304222629/halo/images/9/9f/Mark_of_Shame.jpg]Mark of Shame[/url] has too many curves. You can distinctly see straight lines on the Hunter's symbol.[/quote] Perhaps the old covie symbol? Like it was A red C or something but maybe this is the old one.
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Onto the actual topic, after that discussion, I am kind of curious why the hunters do have that symbol. Maybe to make them seem more alien? Identification of some sort?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zaylx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zaylx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zaylx Wrong choice of words. The Covenant based their designs off that of the Forerunners', not directly copied them. So if it's impossible to tell, at the moment, whether it's Forerunner or Covenant, which makes more sense?[/quote]You're right, but why would the Covenant create a whole new glyph in the first place? [/quote] Who says it's new? Maybe we just never saw it as the Master Chief and ODST. The Hunters' armor has changed over the years, maybe it just stopped being imprinted with the symbol. Maybe it's identification for the Hunters, and it was discontinued for some reason that we haven't heard about.[/quote]Sorry for confusion, by "new" I meant the Forerunners didn't create it. Or perhaps we did not see it before, as stated above.[/quote] You mean why the Covenant made their own glyphs? As much as the Covenant knew about the Forerunners, they did not have complete understanding. A mistranslation on their part was what started the entire Human-Covenant War. So they couldn't copy it directly, for lack of complete understanding, and possibly due to the Forerunners' god-like status in their eyes. So they imitated them, while not strictly copying them.[/quote]Ok, I see what you're saying. Thanks. I'll edit OP.
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Pyrotrain beat me to it. [Edited on 06.17.2010 2:22 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zaylx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zaylx Wrong choice of words. The Covenant based their designs off that of the Forerunners', not directly copied them. So if it's impossible to tell, at the moment, whether it's Forerunner or Covenant, which makes more sense?[/quote]You're right, but why would the Covenant create a whole new glyph in the first place? [/quote] Who says it's new? Maybe we just never saw it as the Master Chief and ODST. The Hunters' armor has changed over the years, maybe it just stopped being imprinted with the symbol. Maybe it's identification for the Hunters, and it was discontinued for some reason that we haven't heard about.[/quote]Sorry for confusion, by "new" I meant the Forerunners didn't create it. Or perhaps we did not see it before, as stated above.[/quote] You mean why the Covenant made their own glyphs? As much as the Covenant knew about the Forerunners, they did not have complete understanding. A mistranslation on their part was what started the entire Human-Covenant War. So they couldn't copy it directly, for lack of complete understanding, and possibly due to the Forerunners' god-like status in their eyes. So they imitated them, while not strictly copying them.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zaylx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zaylx Wrong choice of words. The Covenant based their designs off that of the Forerunners', not directly copied them. So if it's impossible to tell, at the moment, whether it's Forerunner or Covenant, which makes more sense?[/quote]You're right, but why would the Covenant create a whole new glyph in the first place? [/quote] Who says it's new? Maybe we just never saw it as the Master Chief and ODST. The Hunters' armor has changed over the years, maybe it just stopped being imprinted with the symbol. Maybe it's identification for the Hunters, and it was discontinued for some reason that we haven't heard about.[/quote]Sorry for confusion, by "new" in the post I meant the Forerunners didn't create it. By "new" in the thread title I meant never-before-seen. [Edited on 06.17.2010 2:16 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pyrotrain [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pyrotrain Didn't Elites have those symbols on their arms?[/quote]Just checked Halo Reach renders. Didn't see any, but perhaps you were mentioning a different Halo game?[/quote] Halo 3 is the game I'm referring to. I have the Halo Encyclopedia and it has pictures of Elites with symbols like that on their forearms and chests. The two Elites they are showing are Usze 'Taham and 'Rtas Vadumee.[/quote]Just checked Halopedia. You're right. I can only see 3 symbols but none of them look like the ones from the Hunter.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zaylx Wrong choice of words. The Covenant based their designs off that of the Forerunners', not directly copied them. So if it's impossible to tell, at the moment, whether it's Forerunner or Covenant, which makes more sense?[/quote]You're right, but why would the Covenant create a whole new glyph in the first place? [/quote] Who says it's new? Maybe we just never saw it as the Master Chief and ODST. The Hunters' armor has changed over the years, maybe it just stopped being imprinted with the symbol. Maybe it's identification for the Hunters, and it was discontinued for some reason that we haven't heard about.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pyrotrain Didn't Elites have those symbols on their arms?[/quote]Just checked Halo Reach renders. Didn't see any, but perhaps you were mentioning a different Halo game?[/quote] Halo 3 is the game I'm referring to. I have the Halo Encyclopedia and it has pictures of Elites with symbols like that on their forearms and chests. The two Elites they are showing are Usze 'Taham and 'Rtas Vadumee.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zaylx Wrong choice of words. The Covenant based their designs off that of the Forerunners', not directly copied them. So if it's impossible to tell, at the moment, whether it's Forerunner or Covenant, which makes more sense?[/quote]You're right, but why would the Covenant create a whole new glyph in the first place? Easier to use one already created. [Edited on 06.17.2010 2:07 PM PDT]
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It actually looks more like an emblem like the mark of shame or something. ZOMG WE CAN PLAY AS HUNTERS IN MULTI????!!!!!! [Edited on 06.17.2010 2:06 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALOHEROE15 Thats the mark of shame.[/quote][url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070304222629/halo/images/9/9f/Mark_of_Shame.jpg]Mark of Shame[/url] has too many curves. You can distinctly see straight lines on the Hunter's symbol. [Edited on 06.17.2010 2:05 PM PDT]
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Wrong choice of words. The Covenant based their designs off that of the Forerunners', not directly copied them. So if it's impossible to tell, at the moment, whether it's Forerunner or Covenant, which makes more sense?
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Thats the mark of shame.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] zaylx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp I checked Halopedia, it's a Forerunner symbol.[/quote] Where on Halopedia does it explicitly say it's forerunner? The Covenant stole much of their symbols from the Forerunners, it's bound to look similar, and there would be no reason for hunters to have Forerunner symbols on their armor.[/quote][url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Forerunner_symbols]Like you said, they stole a bunch of symbols from the Forerunners.[/url] The armor might be based off of Forerunner armor/tech, or the symbol might mean something about the hunters. Either way, you can't deny that it's Foreruunner, even if the covenant use it. [Edited on 06.17.2010 2:01 PM PDT]
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The Hunters turn out to be the Forerunners all along? Now [i]that's[/i] a helluva plot twist.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp I checked Halopedia, it's a Forerunner symbol.[/quote] Where on Halopedia does it explicitly say it's forerunner? The Covenant stole much of their symbols from the Forerunners, it's bound to look similar, and there would be no reason for hunters to have Forerunner symbols on their armor. [Edited on 06.17.2010 1:57 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DynamicVamp [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Salazar14 Good find bro. But it isn't actually new. It's just a rotated and flipped version of [url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070909021834/halo/images/e/e0/CRsymbol3.png]this symbol[/url] which was in Halo CE's control panel in the control room (according to Halopedia).[/quote]I see the resemblance, but the top-left segment on the Hunter seems to curve outwards, unlike the other one which stays (mostly) enclosed.[/quote] Oh yeah. So it's a different variant of that symbol. Good find.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pyrotrain Didn't Elites have those symbols on their arms?[/quote]Just checked Halo Reach renders. Didn't see any, but perhaps you were mentioning a different Halo game?
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Didn't Elites have those symbols on their arms?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Salazar14 Good find bro. But it isn't actually new. It's just a rotated and flipped version of [url=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070909021834/halo/images/e/e0/CRsymbol3.png]this symbol[/url] which was in Halo CE's control panel in the control room (according to Halopedia).[/quote]I see the resemblance, but the top-left segment on the Hunter seems to curve outwards, unlike the other one which stays (mostly) enclosed. [Edited on 06.17.2010 1:54 PM PDT]
