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Opening NAT for Dummies 2: Pimp Out Your Xbox Live for Halo Reach!
EDIT: i dont reply to pms, if i did i'd be a full time volunteer. This was designed to be a generalised, simple guide and it has achieved that if the thousands of appreciative comments are to be believed. It you're a kid it's fine to ask for dad's help with this. [b]If you're having problems have a go fixing it by using great resources like the FAQ in the third post (which summarises the 60 pages of help given here) and portforward.com[/b], the ultimate networking destination. Exotic queries/routers can be answered/troubleshot by wikipedia and google. (search for " 'troubleshooting'") If all else fails you are welcome to leave a detailed description of your problem in the thread, though I stress googling your query will usually give you an answer instantly.
Hey Bungie.net Member. Master Chef SC here. Keep the credit to me and you can put this guide anywhere.
This is all about allowing everyone to directly connect to you in games like Halo Reach, so you don't have to settle for the scraps of Matchmaking. AKA Open NAT. You will not be vulnerable to hackers since you will only be allowing people into programs and games that you select. However, there are some side effects from learning how to get an Open NAT on your computer and xbox:
o - You'll remove any chance of connection problems with friends
o - You'll get better pings in all online computer games, because you can connect to everybody and so have more choice in matchmaking.
o - You'll stream your computer hard drive's videos, pictures and music onto your Xbox without any stuttering.
o - You'll maximise the speed of your peer to peer downloading including MSN file transferring
o - You won't pay an idiot 50 bucks every time something easy goes wrong.
The process is pretty technical but it'll try to explain it so you can understand it and it will pay back in huge dividends. Face it, you're living in an age of computers. Know how to pimp them.
Your Xbox 360's NAT could already be open without you realising. To check if it is, turn on your Xbox 360 and in the dashboard's My Xbox area, scroll right all the way to system settings. Select 'Network Settings.' Then select 'Test Xbox Live Connection.'
The Xbox will run a bunch of tests, the last of which is NAT. It could be Strict, Moderate or Open. [b]If it is Open, the test won't even mention the word NAT.[/b] If so, stop reading this guide (either you have a Xbox live certified router or you have your Xbox directly connected to the modem. Please note that some, including my Xbox live certified router don't do their job of letting xbox live through the firewall). If it reads moderate or strict, then you are ripping yourself off.
To get yourself an open NAT, it's not quite as simple as ticking a box. That's why this essay is here. The first thing you have to do is make your Xbox 360's local IP address 'static.' Then you have to open a back door in the router's software to your Xbox.
If you don't know what a local IP address is, just think of your home network as a neighbourhood of mostly empty houses, labelled 1 through 255. For the vast majority of neighbourhoods like yours, the mailman lives at house 1 (he is the router) and he's the only contact with the outside world, which he accesses through the modem. If your computer, Xbox and laptop don't have a static IP, then they will live in a different house each time they're turned on and so need to tell the mailman where they live to be in contact with the outside world. If your Xbox or Computer has a static IP, they're always in the same house.
The second step is to open ports on your router. It'll make teleporters between the mailman's house and your Xbox's. You can see that if the Xbox is always in a different house then the teleporter that goes to house 5 will only work some of time. Further on, each teleporter, or port opened, only works for one certain type of internet traffic AND can only be set to one device, or house.
This number of the houses is the fourth in an "IP Address." The first three numbers don't ever change for the whole network. Example: 192.168.1.[b]1[/b] or 10.1.1.[b]1[/b]. So change only the last number for different devices on the network, between 1 and 255. Your router will most likely be on 1, but whatever it is on, it will never change.
[b]PART A- STATIC IP[/b]
Your computer and Xbox show a static IP as manually entering in IP settings and a non-static as them being set to automatic.
Now you need to know all the technical numbers with three letter acronyms (you gotta love em) necessary- to get the same IP address everytime. The easiest way to get these numbers is to go to your computer's start menu, click on run, type in "cmd" (for windows 7 users, go to the start menu, click on the box to search for files or folders and type "cmd" and double click on the first result, thanks General Khazard). and then in the black box that pops up type "ipconfig /all". That's ipconfig space slash all. A rush of stuff will appear and you'll feel like a hacker. Look down towards the bottom and [b]write down on paper[/b] your IP Address (aka IPv4), Subnet Mask, Default Gateway and DNS Servers. Any typos here would be tragic so triple check that you have them right. I'll explain what each of these mean:
[b]IP address- [/b] What I was talking about at the end of the introduction. This is your computer's local IP address. For your entire network the first three numbers, say 192.168.1, will be the same. The last identifies to the router what device on the network it is.
[b]Subnet Mask-[/b] Scrambles your IP address from outsiders.
[b]Default Gateway- [/b]The local IP address of your [b]router[/b].
[b] DNS servers- [/b] These are pass codes from your internet service provider. There will most likely be two. The first is called "Preferred/Primary DNS server" and the second is also known as the "Alternate/Secondary DNS server." Please note there may only be one. In this case please make the Secondary DNS the same number as the primary.
Now that we've got these numbers, we can go and make all of the computers and Xboxes that you want to open ports for static.
[b]How to make your Xbox 360's IP address Static:[/b]
Now you are ready to go back to your Xbox 360's dashboard. In My Xbox, scroll right and select system settings, network settings, edit settings. There are two options- IP settings and DNS settings. Go into either, change the setting to manual and then enter all of the codes you have written down on your paper, with one difference. The last digit of the IP address needs to be changed to a number preferably between 50 and 250. Choose your favourite and write it down on the paper as your Xbox's Local IP address. While you're at it choose the numbers of your computer/s too, the houses that they will live in.
If can reconnect to Xbox live, you have successfully made your Xbox IP's static.
[b]Making your computer's IP address Static:[/b]
(For this section, If you don't have WIndows XP or prefer pretty pictures over a wall of text, check [url=http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm] this out[/url])
Go to your computer, click start, control panel, network connections (classic view). You now have some icons that probably say "local area connection" and "wireless network connection." Ignore the "Internet Gateway Internet Connection" icon up further up. You need to select the one of local or wireless or otherwise that you use to connect to the internet. IF you don't know which one it is, go ahead and right click on one and 'disable' it.
If your -blam!- stops downloading and you can't load up Google, it's probably the right one.
Right click on the icon that gives you life, go 'properties', within the 'this connection uses the following items' embedded list scroll down to Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and then click on properties, just a little down and right. You will now see a window similar to how you entered in your codes on your xbox, except its all compact and lacks style.
Here you will find if your IP address is static or roaming. If all the numbers are already filled in, its static and you should right down that computer's fourth number in its local IP address. This is old hat for you isn't it! If no numbers are filled in then do that yourself using all the numbers you wrote down on paper. Type in the DNS, Subnet, Gateway... it's all as easy as shooting a whale in barrel. If you're still connected to the internet then you haven't made any mistakes, because I sure didn't.
[Edited on 01.08.2011 4:54 AM PST]
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I've tried everything, yet my NAT is still closed. My router is a Netgear one. I had all the ports forwarded, my Xbox's IP (which is static) as the default DMZ, and then I had UPnP on. Though the article said that they all sort of cancel each other out, so I removed all port forward settings and turned off UPnP. I reset my router and modem, and restarted my Xbox. Still have a strict NAT. Help? I've been trying to fix this for a long time, and this is becoming very tedious and frustrating.
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I'm not a techy so i dont exactly know what NAT is, but it just gives me a message on reach saying "your NAT is closed matchmaking may be slow" so im concerened cuz my XBL randomly disconnects on me which is -blam!- annoying. My gameplay isn't slow though, so I'm really confused so imma fix it anyways... somehow... Anyways thanks for the tips/info!
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Thanx alot =) I did it 5-8 months ago and it worked perfectly. it's been working ever since. I remember I searched for about 10 min. before finding your guide and when I did I got it working in 20 min. If I didn't find this i don't know how long it would have taken me to open my network ;). plus I know more about my router now. Anyways, thanks alot again =D
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Im in college, and right now in Concepts and Theory's of networking Phase. I was reading along seeing if i missed up somewhere and i did, i put my 360 in a DMZ and portworded it, and then it dawned on me why that'd conflict, If its in a dmz its outside the lan, and the who purpose of a NAT (network adress translation) is to use multiple ips in your lan and apear as one ip to the outside world and it (in short) uses ports to select what data frame(s) goes to who. Im thinking of putting it back into my lan as at one point in me configuring around i had an open nat (as i had all the right ports forwarded). Also i noticed some posts saying to have Upnp enabled (universal plugNplay) Ill turn mine off(probably should have done it anyway, pnp isnt the safest thing on earth).
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[quote]Starting Port: If I say open 3074, enter 3074. if I say open 200-210, enter 200. Ending Port: If I say open 3074, enter 3074. if I say open 200-210, enter 210.[/quote] What does he mean by that... And when i press save when i opened my ports it says "The value is out of range 1 ~ 65535"
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I had open NAT then for some reason it recently went to moderate...tried fixing it, got nothing.
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I like my NAT open wide, just like my women. Perfect
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So will this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBwiDCHE0r8
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For the port forwarding section. Do I type in each number on the list in both fields, and Xbox_live1 for the name every time, and it's ip for that ip? For each number I mean. If so, when I tried 3074, it said it was already in use. Could you pm with about this, please? [Edited on 04.02.2011 6:25 AM PDT]
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Sweetness! Fast ass Lightning now! :)
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My NAT was always moderate, so one day during a free Gold weekend I followed guides online (not this one though) on how to change it to open. I did everything and it made it strict for some reason. So I put everything back how it was and it went back to moderate. I kid you not though, the day after the free Gold weekend ended, my NAT became open on it's own! Now I patiently wait with an open NAT I can do nothing with for the next free Gold weekend to come around.
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I love you... ;)
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wow this was amazing, i got to an open NAT on my first try, now i can actually have fun playing, thanks :) [url=http://www.mtgfanatic.com/?ForumReferrerID=108952]Click this for Magic[/url]
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Thats easy since you can run command prompt from All programs>accessories and its just there like a normal application. Btw I love how you he explain the whole thing like it really is for dummies(you will feel like a hacker) lol.
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My NAT is still on strict. WTF! You lier!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Normarks Sadly I cannot open my NAT since I use a dongle [/quote] What kind of dongle are you using. There is almost ALWAYS a way to do it. And to the above posts. I have been getting a warning lately about my upstream bandwidth as well. It has not affected my gameplay, and would be best not to worry about if it has recently changed. If this has always been the case AND you have laggy games, check that your ISP can provide you with an appropriate connection, or that no machines in the house are currently hogging your connection (Torrent downloads for example, more specifically, uploading with P2P programs)
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Sadly I cannot open my NAT since I use a dongle
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Tried everything, still Strict NAT.
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Does anyone else have a "Warning!" for Upstream Bandwidth in the Network Status menu on Halo: Reach? Also, does anyone know what I can do to fix this? Or increase my bandwith somehow? I cannot figure out why I would have this warning. If anyone can help me I'd be very greatful. Thanks.
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This way too long... Just go to dashboard > my xbox > connection > run test... Your nat is reset to open...
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-i did the static IP for the xbox portion -typed in my router IP in address bar -logged in -went to the system settings in the system settings there is this thing NAT Enabling: ADVANCED FEATURE! Allows you to turn the Network Address Translation feature off. In almost every case you would NOT want to turn this feature off. More Info - NAT Enable / Disable > Do i still have to go through the port forwarding or can i just disable this thing and click enter? plz get back to me asap. thanks.
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I just wanted to say thanks. worked first try
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so is it possible to have an unopenable nat? I feel like I have tried everything and it still is closed
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why isnt this stickied anymore
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Post a video of what?
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Could you Please post a video of this on youtube?
