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Opening NAT for Dummies 2: Pimp Out Your Xbox Live for Halo Reach!
EDIT: i dont reply to pms, if i did i'd be a full time volunteer. This was designed to be a generalised, simple guide and it has achieved that if the thousands of appreciative comments are to be believed. It you're a kid it's fine to ask for dad's help with this. [b]If you're having problems have a go fixing it by using great resources like the FAQ in the third post (which summarises the 60 pages of help given here) and portforward.com[/b], the ultimate networking destination. Exotic queries/routers can be answered/troubleshot by wikipedia and google. (search for " 'troubleshooting'") If all else fails you are welcome to leave a detailed description of your problem in the thread, though I stress googling your query will usually give you an answer instantly.
Hey Bungie.net Member. Master Chef SC here. Keep the credit to me and you can put this guide anywhere.
This is all about allowing everyone to directly connect to you in games like Halo Reach, so you don't have to settle for the scraps of Matchmaking. AKA Open NAT. You will not be vulnerable to hackers since you will only be allowing people into programs and games that you select. However, there are some side effects from learning how to get an Open NAT on your computer and xbox:
o - You'll remove any chance of connection problems with friends
o - You'll get better pings in all online computer games, because you can connect to everybody and so have more choice in matchmaking.
o - You'll stream your computer hard drive's videos, pictures and music onto your Xbox without any stuttering.
o - You'll maximise the speed of your peer to peer downloading including MSN file transferring
o - You won't pay an idiot 50 bucks every time something easy goes wrong.
The process is pretty technical but it'll try to explain it so you can understand it and it will pay back in huge dividends. Face it, you're living in an age of computers. Know how to pimp them.
Your Xbox 360's NAT could already be open without you realising. To check if it is, turn on your Xbox 360 and in the dashboard's My Xbox area, scroll right all the way to system settings. Select 'Network Settings.' Then select 'Test Xbox Live Connection.'
The Xbox will run a bunch of tests, the last of which is NAT. It could be Strict, Moderate or Open. [b]If it is Open, the test won't even mention the word NAT.[/b] If so, stop reading this guide (either you have a Xbox live certified router or you have your Xbox directly connected to the modem. Please note that some, including my Xbox live certified router don't do their job of letting xbox live through the firewall). If it reads moderate or strict, then you are ripping yourself off.
To get yourself an open NAT, it's not quite as simple as ticking a box. That's why this essay is here. The first thing you have to do is make your Xbox 360's local IP address 'static.' Then you have to open a back door in the router's software to your Xbox.
If you don't know what a local IP address is, just think of your home network as a neighbourhood of mostly empty houses, labelled 1 through 255. For the vast majority of neighbourhoods like yours, the mailman lives at house 1 (he is the router) and he's the only contact with the outside world, which he accesses through the modem. If your computer, Xbox and laptop don't have a static IP, then they will live in a different house each time they're turned on and so need to tell the mailman where they live to be in contact with the outside world. If your Xbox or Computer has a static IP, they're always in the same house.
The second step is to open ports on your router. It'll make teleporters between the mailman's house and your Xbox's. You can see that if the Xbox is always in a different house then the teleporter that goes to house 5 will only work some of time. Further on, each teleporter, or port opened, only works for one certain type of internet traffic AND can only be set to one device, or house.
This number of the houses is the fourth in an "IP Address." The first three numbers don't ever change for the whole network. Example: 192.168.1.[b]1[/b] or 10.1.1.[b]1[/b]. So change only the last number for different devices on the network, between 1 and 255. Your router will most likely be on 1, but whatever it is on, it will never change.
[b]PART A- STATIC IP[/b]
Your computer and Xbox show a static IP as manually entering in IP settings and a non-static as them being set to automatic.
Now you need to know all the technical numbers with three letter acronyms (you gotta love em) necessary- to get the same IP address everytime. The easiest way to get these numbers is to go to your computer's start menu, click on run, type in "cmd" (for windows 7 users, go to the start menu, click on the box to search for files or folders and type "cmd" and double click on the first result, thanks General Khazard). and then in the black box that pops up type "ipconfig /all". That's ipconfig space slash all. A rush of stuff will appear and you'll feel like a hacker. Look down towards the bottom and [b]write down on paper[/b] your IP Address (aka IPv4), Subnet Mask, Default Gateway and DNS Servers. Any typos here would be tragic so triple check that you have them right. I'll explain what each of these mean:
[b]IP address- [/b] What I was talking about at the end of the introduction. This is your computer's local IP address. For your entire network the first three numbers, say 192.168.1, will be the same. The last identifies to the router what device on the network it is.
[b]Subnet Mask-[/b] Scrambles your IP address from outsiders.
[b]Default Gateway- [/b]The local IP address of your [b]router[/b].
[b] DNS servers- [/b] These are pass codes from your internet service provider. There will most likely be two. The first is called "Preferred/Primary DNS server" and the second is also known as the "Alternate/Secondary DNS server." Please note there may only be one. In this case please make the Secondary DNS the same number as the primary.
Now that we've got these numbers, we can go and make all of the computers and Xboxes that you want to open ports for static.
[b]How to make your Xbox 360's IP address Static:[/b]
Now you are ready to go back to your Xbox 360's dashboard. In My Xbox, scroll right and select system settings, network settings, edit settings. There are two options- IP settings and DNS settings. Go into either, change the setting to manual and then enter all of the codes you have written down on your paper, with one difference. The last digit of the IP address needs to be changed to a number preferably between 50 and 250. Choose your favourite and write it down on the paper as your Xbox's Local IP address. While you're at it choose the numbers of your computer/s too, the houses that they will live in.
If can reconnect to Xbox live, you have successfully made your Xbox IP's static.
[b]Making your computer's IP address Static:[/b]
(For this section, If you don't have WIndows XP or prefer pretty pictures over a wall of text, check [url=http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm] this out[/url])
Go to your computer, click start, control panel, network connections (classic view). You now have some icons that probably say "local area connection" and "wireless network connection." Ignore the "Internet Gateway Internet Connection" icon up further up. You need to select the one of local or wireless or otherwise that you use to connect to the internet. IF you don't know which one it is, go ahead and right click on one and 'disable' it.
If your -blam!- stops downloading and you can't load up Google, it's probably the right one.
Right click on the icon that gives you life, go 'properties', within the 'this connection uses the following items' embedded list scroll down to Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and then click on properties, just a little down and right. You will now see a window similar to how you entered in your codes on your xbox, except its all compact and lacks style.
Here you will find if your IP address is static or roaming. If all the numbers are already filled in, its static and you should right down that computer's fourth number in its local IP address. This is old hat for you isn't it! If no numbers are filled in then do that yourself using all the numbers you wrote down on paper. Type in the DNS, Subnet, Gateway... it's all as easy as shooting a whale in barrel. If you're still connected to the internet then you haven't made any mistakes, because I sure didn't.
[Edited on 01.08.2011 4:54 AM PST]
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Exactly!
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only u need to make the settings of te udp and tcp ports...its easy...y play with 1mb of conection...and works fine xD
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Prob: Reach used to say connection: Warning and Packet loss rate: Low/Excellent, I was happy, almost always got host. Now they say : Undetected. Insufficient data to gather information. ?
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Wow i think i managed to do this and it wasn't as hard as i thought it was going to be thankx. I got a new router that was suppose to be compatible but was giving me a moderate nat so i followed this and it now says open. Still need to see if i can or can't join one of my friends with closed nat tho.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KH4 iImmune 1. You have to open ports 88 and 3074. 2. Copy and paste default ip into address bar 3. You can find the username or pass in your manual for your router, or on the bottom of the router. 4. You will enter the main config page, make sure UPnP is enabled 5. For 'header' go to Applications and Gaming 6. For your option click Port Range Forward(ing) 7. For application type xbox 8. For 'start ~ end port' type '88 to 88' 9. For protocol make sure it is set for 'both' 10. For 'To IP Address' you will take your ip address, and add ten to the last digit. So instead of 777.777.7.7 it would be 777.777.7.17, for explanation sake. 11. You want the enabled box checked 12. Repeat steps 7-11 except for step 8, open port 3074. 13. Now on your xbox 360, go to System Settings>Network Settings>Configure Network>Manual 14. Fill in your subnet mask, gateway, and for ip address use the one you made, where you added ten to the last digit. It's actually really easy [/quote] I read through the main post like 3 times and couldnt figure it out, then after reading this I did it in under a minute. Thank you.
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Thanks so much, [Thread SAVED!]
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Can someone explain to me why everytime my NAT is off, I just usually turn on and off the UPnP and Restore the xbox to its default settings, it turns my NAT from off to on?
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*save thread* I've been having difficulties with matchmaking the past couple of days, and it was mostly due to my NAT setting. It was on closed and I wondered why since all my settings were optimal and nothing seemed wrong. Digging through the forums I eventually found your thread, and I found out that all I had to do was simply test my network settings. :S Thanks for the thread!
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My Xbox wont work in static. I enter the information I got from ipconfig/all and changed the ips last digit to 50/150/109 even 100 which is what its set to automatically. But for whatever reason nothing works. Advice?
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I didn't even know about this, but my NAT is always open. I'll check this out later *Thread Saved*
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Hey you guys, just a little FYI, I haven't posted in years, but I'm so stoked. I just reached ONYX on Reach over a Verizon Mifi, with a 1.2-2.2mb connection. This does have port forwarding, but I've never been able to have an open NAT. So there you go, people with NAT issues, it's still possible to have fun and dominate on a crap connection, with a moderate NAT.
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I had my xbox port forwarded and working fine for several years but recently it has gone to strict. It says its open when no static IP is up, but cannot connect to any of my friends, and when I have a static IP and have tried all of the options it gives me a strict NAT, with UPnP, DMZ or port forwarding. I have a DIR 300 and know my way around routers. Any suggestions?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sweet heart 231 LOL my nat is already open GO ME[/quote] [url=http://e621.net/data/f6/b1/f6b1e5e60209f61e2b8db7114c00537e.swf]FUUUUU[/url]
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LOL my nat is already open GO ME
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My nat type was open now it is moderate someone has an idea why this happened?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] garciafamily lol i didnt have to do all that crap all i had to do was do a xbox live connection test lmao[/quote] What you've just typed is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent statement were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no steak, and may God have mercy on your soul
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If you are Dutch and have a KPN ADSL subscription using a Thomson router here is how to enable open NAT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj5aMqoke6A
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Great thread!
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Well guys, I'm saying screw it and just gonna buy a Microsoft certified router. Can you guys recommend a cheap, good one? I currently have a Mac Airport Extreme, and I want to know if my house can have both my apple one and the new one. Guys, sorry but I have no idea what the difference is between a modem, router, ect. Currently, on my wall, there is this thing that has PHONE, DATA, CABLE, and other things. I plug my Airport into data, then my Xbox into the airport. I also tried plugging my xbox directly into data, but I still have a strict Nat [Edited on 06.12.2011 10:21 AM PDT]
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NVM [Edited on 06.12.2011 10:20 AM PDT]
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I have multipal xbx's and 1 would get mod/strict. so I Bought a D-Link DGL-4500 Gaming Router and all my NAT troubles are gone. Don't have to forward or open anything for both box's to get the openNAT.Plug and Play! Best Router for Gamers!
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Thread saved. Love it. Great advice/help for those who need it. This should be pinned topic. Nice man.
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Guys, I have a Mac Airport, to which I lost the manual. I have a strict NAT, and I want to know how I can fix this?
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Thanks, this should really help me out.
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I've tried everything, yet my NAT is still closed. My router is a Netgear one. I had all the ports forwarded, my Xbox's IP (which is static) as the default DMZ, and then I had UPnP on. Though the article said that they all sort of cancel each other out, so I removed all port forward settings and turned off UPnP. I reset my router and modem, and restarted my Xbox. Still have a strict NAT. Help? I've been trying to fix this for a long time, and this is becoming very tedious and frustrating.
