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Opening NAT for Dummies 2: Pimp Out Your Xbox Live for Halo Reach!
EDIT: i dont reply to pms, if i did i'd be a full time volunteer. This was designed to be a generalised, simple guide and it has achieved that if the thousands of appreciative comments are to be believed. It you're a kid it's fine to ask for dad's help with this. [b]If you're having problems have a go fixing it by using great resources like the FAQ in the third post (which summarises the 60 pages of help given here) and portforward.com[/b], the ultimate networking destination. Exotic queries/routers can be answered/troubleshot by wikipedia and google. (search for " 'troubleshooting'") If all else fails you are welcome to leave a detailed description of your problem in the thread, though I stress googling your query will usually give you an answer instantly.
Hey Bungie.net Member. Master Chef SC here. Keep the credit to me and you can put this guide anywhere.
This is all about allowing everyone to directly connect to you in games like Halo Reach, so you don't have to settle for the scraps of Matchmaking. AKA Open NAT. You will not be vulnerable to hackers since you will only be allowing people into programs and games that you select. However, there are some side effects from learning how to get an Open NAT on your computer and xbox:
o - You'll remove any chance of connection problems with friends
o - You'll get better pings in all online computer games, because you can connect to everybody and so have more choice in matchmaking.
o - You'll stream your computer hard drive's videos, pictures and music onto your Xbox without any stuttering.
o - You'll maximise the speed of your peer to peer downloading including MSN file transferring
o - You won't pay an idiot 50 bucks every time something easy goes wrong.
The process is pretty technical but it'll try to explain it so you can understand it and it will pay back in huge dividends. Face it, you're living in an age of computers. Know how to pimp them.
Your Xbox 360's NAT could already be open without you realising. To check if it is, turn on your Xbox 360 and in the dashboard's My Xbox area, scroll right all the way to system settings. Select 'Network Settings.' Then select 'Test Xbox Live Connection.'
The Xbox will run a bunch of tests, the last of which is NAT. It could be Strict, Moderate or Open. [b]If it is Open, the test won't even mention the word NAT.[/b] If so, stop reading this guide (either you have a Xbox live certified router or you have your Xbox directly connected to the modem. Please note that some, including my Xbox live certified router don't do their job of letting xbox live through the firewall). If it reads moderate or strict, then you are ripping yourself off.
To get yourself an open NAT, it's not quite as simple as ticking a box. That's why this essay is here. The first thing you have to do is make your Xbox 360's local IP address 'static.' Then you have to open a back door in the router's software to your Xbox.
If you don't know what a local IP address is, just think of your home network as a neighbourhood of mostly empty houses, labelled 1 through 255. For the vast majority of neighbourhoods like yours, the mailman lives at house 1 (he is the router) and he's the only contact with the outside world, which he accesses through the modem. If your computer, Xbox and laptop don't have a static IP, then they will live in a different house each time they're turned on and so need to tell the mailman where they live to be in contact with the outside world. If your Xbox or Computer has a static IP, they're always in the same house.
The second step is to open ports on your router. It'll make teleporters between the mailman's house and your Xbox's. You can see that if the Xbox is always in a different house then the teleporter that goes to house 5 will only work some of time. Further on, each teleporter, or port opened, only works for one certain type of internet traffic AND can only be set to one device, or house.
This number of the houses is the fourth in an "IP Address." The first three numbers don't ever change for the whole network. Example: 192.168.1.[b]1[/b] or 10.1.1.[b]1[/b]. So change only the last number for different devices on the network, between 1 and 255. Your router will most likely be on 1, but whatever it is on, it will never change.
[b]PART A- STATIC IP[/b]
Your computer and Xbox show a static IP as manually entering in IP settings and a non-static as them being set to automatic.
Now you need to know all the technical numbers with three letter acronyms (you gotta love em) necessary- to get the same IP address everytime. The easiest way to get these numbers is to go to your computer's start menu, click on run, type in "cmd" (for windows 7 users, go to the start menu, click on the box to search for files or folders and type "cmd" and double click on the first result, thanks General Khazard). and then in the black box that pops up type "ipconfig /all". That's ipconfig space slash all. A rush of stuff will appear and you'll feel like a hacker. Look down towards the bottom and [b]write down on paper[/b] your IP Address (aka IPv4), Subnet Mask, Default Gateway and DNS Servers. Any typos here would be tragic so triple check that you have them right. I'll explain what each of these mean:
[b]IP address- [/b] What I was talking about at the end of the introduction. This is your computer's local IP address. For your entire network the first three numbers, say 192.168.1, will be the same. The last identifies to the router what device on the network it is.
[b]Subnet Mask-[/b] Scrambles your IP address from outsiders.
[b]Default Gateway- [/b]The local IP address of your [b]router[/b].
[b] DNS servers- [/b] These are pass codes from your internet service provider. There will most likely be two. The first is called "Preferred/Primary DNS server" and the second is also known as the "Alternate/Secondary DNS server." Please note there may only be one. In this case please make the Secondary DNS the same number as the primary.
Now that we've got these numbers, we can go and make all of the computers and Xboxes that you want to open ports for static.
[b]How to make your Xbox 360's IP address Static:[/b]
Now you are ready to go back to your Xbox 360's dashboard. In My Xbox, scroll right and select system settings, network settings, edit settings. There are two options- IP settings and DNS settings. Go into either, change the setting to manual and then enter all of the codes you have written down on your paper, with one difference. The last digit of the IP address needs to be changed to a number preferably between 50 and 250. Choose your favourite and write it down on the paper as your Xbox's Local IP address. While you're at it choose the numbers of your computer/s too, the houses that they will live in.
If can reconnect to Xbox live, you have successfully made your Xbox IP's static.
[b]Making your computer's IP address Static:[/b]
(For this section, If you don't have WIndows XP or prefer pretty pictures over a wall of text, check [url=http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm] this out[/url])
Go to your computer, click start, control panel, network connections (classic view). You now have some icons that probably say "local area connection" and "wireless network connection." Ignore the "Internet Gateway Internet Connection" icon up further up. You need to select the one of local or wireless or otherwise that you use to connect to the internet. IF you don't know which one it is, go ahead and right click on one and 'disable' it.
If your -blam!- stops downloading and you can't load up Google, it's probably the right one.
Right click on the icon that gives you life, go 'properties', within the 'this connection uses the following items' embedded list scroll down to Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and then click on properties, just a little down and right. You will now see a window similar to how you entered in your codes on your xbox, except its all compact and lacks style.
Here you will find if your IP address is static or roaming. If all the numbers are already filled in, its static and you should right down that computer's fourth number in its local IP address. This is old hat for you isn't it! If no numbers are filled in then do that yourself using all the numbers you wrote down on paper. Type in the DNS, Subnet, Gateway... it's all as easy as shooting a whale in barrel. If you're still connected to the internet then you haven't made any mistakes, because I sure didn't.
[Edited on 01.08.2011 4:54 AM PST]
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1 Replylol i didnt have to do all that crap all i had to do was do a xbox live connection test lmao
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so iv have made everything static on my xbox and pc, i am still connected so i must have done it right. yet i still have a strict nat. and dont tell me i have to enable dhcp, upnp or port triggering i tried all that and nothing even changes
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Necro'd.
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Something went horribly wrong. I followed ALL the instructions, but when I got to the part in the thread that talked about ports and -blam!-,AND opened the ports, I went to the DMZ settings. From there I enabled the DMZ, then disabled the ports that I previously opened. Then outta nowhere my internet was disconnected. I tried reconnecting, but to no avail. So, I troubleshoot it and this is what came up: "DNS servers are incorrect or do not exist." So now I had to System Restore my PC to make the Internet work again... It did, too. Can sombody PLZ shed some light on this? It'll be a great help. Ps: does it really matter if I choose "Any ip adress" when typing in the source IP? [Edited on 11.15.2011 10:13 PM PST]
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All this time I never knew my router had UPNP. And today I looked through the firewall settings and I found that all this time UPNP had been disabled, then I enabled it. I now have an open NAT.
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I am confused, while I have my UPnP enabled and I have put in the specific ports for my router it does not help my NAT type. What happens is I will test my connection in system settings on dashboard and it will not give me a sign my NAT type is Strict and while on Halo: Reach it tells me my NAT type is Open, however if I turn off my Xbox and turn it back on it goes back to being Strict? Was my NAT type really Open or is it actually Strict and just telling me it's Open? Does this have to do with my router or my modem and my ISP? Another inquiry is my Xbox used to have a new IP address if I refreshed it now it is staying to one number and it says my IP Pool has a lot of available numbers and now restricts me from playing with A LOT of my friends now. Should I get a new router (I've heard of xbox approved routers, but I have my doubts it makes a difference) altogether?
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Didn't work. :/ idk what i did wrong but it didn't work. I added all the primary and secondary dns, I changed the ip on my xbox to manual. still moderate. i don't get it. -edit- oh, and I only have one dns server. windows 7 won't allow you to have just one dns server and you can't use the same one so, meh.... question overlooked? or is it answered here somewhere. [Edited on 10.25.2011 5:24 AM PDT]
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Okay, so I have an Open NAT, and my friend has an open NAT, yet we cant join each other. It's only with him...why?
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I just want to say that I am a tech dummy, and I spent about 30 minutes and did just what you said here. I now have an open NAT after I have been dealing with a moderate NAT for 9 months. Gonna test her out tonight in slayer. Thank you so much for taking the time to type all that crap out!!!!!!!
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Hey guys, if you haven't seen them yet. Please check out my [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=DuvBVlaIYkk]How to Open your Xbox 360's NAT with Verizon Fios[/url] video! (3,500 views) ^ That is the updated version of my [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DjxgwiZfo]original[/url] vid (132,000 views) [Edited on 10.08.2011 3:59 PM PDT]
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I don't know what you're talking about O.o i don't really know what a port is. While I'm sure your information is helpful, I can't make heads or tails of it. Thanks anyway.
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Im confused, i have a Linksys E2000 router (latest firmware) that my xbox and ps3 are plugged in directly and my PC is wireless. The 360 and pc have a static IP, ps3 does not. I opened the ports to my 360s static IP address, my DMZ is disabled in the router i even put my computer to a static IP and it still says moderate from time to time. At that point i must turn everything off for 30 seconds, including modem, and on again. I dunno what else i could do. Why does it switch from open to moderate like that?
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THIS HELPED ME SO MUCH. Remember to have UnPP off, I recommend using DMZ and not Port Forwarding.
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Most of the time my NAT is open but every now and then it changes to strict for a week or 2. Do you know what's wrong?
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Thank you so much for this guide! Stickied it a couple years ago in case I ever needed it and I did now, so nice to have my connection not SUCK. Thanks again! =]
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I'm hoping that someone here will be able to help, I've had no luck searching elsewhere. Portforwarding.com seems to think it should work, I've followed their instructions to the letter. I'm using a Belkin F7D2301v1. I have set my xbox 360 to a static IP, and have forwarded the proper ports, however my NAT type is Strict. I have forwarded 53, 80, 88, 1863, 3074 (inbound port) TCP&UDP (type) and 53, 80, 88, 1863, 3074 (private port,) respectively. I've tried this both wired and wireless, and have also tried with UPnP on and off. In all cases, the NAT is strict. When I enable DMZ (would prefer not to do this) I do get open NAT, and same as when I just connect the Xbox to the modem, so I know it's something with the router. I am bothered by a note in the help section of the router settings, "You can only pass one port per internal IP address." Does this mean that it's only successfully forwarding one port for the xbox, and the rest are excluded? Or is this just an explanation that per line I can only put 1 port, and not a range? Has anyone SUCCESSFULLY forwarded this router for XBL? Any help would be appreciated, thank you in advance. [Edited on 08.25.2011 5:24 AM PDT]
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Glad this thread was made, I've been having a lot of issues recently with matchmaking because of a Moderate NAT.
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Sometimes a router's firmware just isn't up to the job. My old Linksys router could not get the Xbox better than a moderate NAT with a static IP address and port forwarding, yet setting the Xbox to auto and letting the router do its thing via DHCP and UPnP always got an open NAT. This was fine until a second Xbox was introduced and only one was open. The downside to port forwarding is if you have more than one Xbox, because only the console/IP set up for port forwarding will/should get the open NAT, whilst the others will be moderate at best due to the relevant ports already being reserved for a specific IP. Personally, I use [url=http://www.dd-wrt.com/]DD-WRT[/url] firmware on my D-Link router and make use of its static lease feature to assign a fixed IP to my S and one to my Premium, then I let its UPnP do the rest and I can have both consoles connected to Live or the same game with an open NAT. This feature can be firmware specific, some firmware can handle more than one Xbox and open NAT, whilst others can't.
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I've noticed as well some router configuration pages require a different default password or username to access them on your internet browser than most help sites state. I had to look on wikipedia to find out the password for my router wasn't password or admin it was a password relevant to what my internet provider was called. So try wikipedia for details on your particular router as well, as cliche as it may seem because it may help you figure out some odd things :D
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My NAT always jumps around between open and moderate. Sometimes it will be open and sometimes it will be moderate. It seems random. Anyone have this problem?
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Alright so the past couple of days I have been trying to figure out how to solve the NAT issue with my Xbox. I went to PortForward and forwarded all the ports to the new static IP that I assigned my Xbox, that didn't seem to work. I used the instructions as per this thread and turned off the DMZ and UPnP with the ports forwarded and that didn't do anything either. I really don't know what I could have missed so I'm hoping that someone with more knowledge about the subject than myself will be able to help. Also I'm running the Xbox on a wireless connection so maybe that has something to do with it? I'm not really sure but any information at all would be greatly appreciated. This whole thing is just driving me crazy.
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Exactly!
