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All of the Exotic Machine Guns are Tied to Tragedy

Before I start my lore post, I would like to say I have written some lore-related posts in the past, but am still fairly new to it. If you would like to see more of my lore posts, just hit the VTLore tag at the bottom and select the post you want. Now, after that self-promotion, let's get started. So, I was looking for an interesting theory to make and started consulting the Exotic weapon grimoire. I landed in the heavy weapon section, and found something odd in each of the machine gun's grimoire. The following are excerpts from certain cards. "...the truth may lie in the weapon's connection to the legendary Hunter Pahanin who witnessed the fall of Kabr, and became terrified of traveling alone." ~Super Good Advice "They rest on quiet fields afar for this is no ending, but the eye." ~Thunderlord flavor text "What is the answer, when the question is extinction?" ~Nemesis Star flavor text "I am one with the flame. The conflagration reborn. I am your funeral pyre." ~Abbadon flavor text "Before he died on the Moon, the titan who wielded the first Thunderlord created two variants of the mighty weapon..." ~Nova Mortis Now, I used the flavor text of some of the weapons. That was because my resources were kind of scare. Bungie didn't give much info on Thunderlord or Nemesis star. However, the flavor text gives us some insight into the weapons' past. For Abbadon, Nova Mortis, and Thunderlord, their story is explained in the Nova Mortis excerpt talking about how the Titan who made them was killed on the Moon. Super Good Advice was the companion of Pahanin, who experienced the horrific fall of Kabr. You see where I'm going with this, right? Nemesis Star took me a little bit to figure out. The flavor text has the foreboding word "extinction" so I had some hope. But making the theory just upon that soon fell flat. My explanation for how Nemesis Star is tied to tragedy was answered after re-reading the grimoire. The weapon foundry's name is Nadir, and the grimoire says "is their foundry's name... an expression of fatalism?" Fatalism means "the acceptance of all things and events as inevitable; submission to fate." Nadir could be founded upon tragedy, and the name may reflect that. I'm sure you readers will find some mistake I made. I wrote this up late into the night, but I feel like it is a plausible theory. Thanks for reading, and I'll see you starside.

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  • I think the Nemesis Star is a bit more complex. The exotic perk for the gun us called "Extinction Cycle". A nadir is the opposite a a zenith: it is something's lowest point. I believe the makers of the gun are saying that the history of life in the universe comes in cycles, and we are at that cycle's nadir. Meaning that we are at a turning point, the beginning of an upswing.

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    • All the exotic machine guns are tied to my foot up your ass [spoiler]take my bump[/spoiler]

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    • That's funny because they're all pretty tragic to use as well.

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      • The nemesis star is a theory that a planet or a small star (possibly a brown dwarf ) is in orbit around the sun. The orbit is speculated to occasionally bring it in close contact with the ort cloud in the far reaches of the solar system, which dislodges several large asteroids and sends them flying into the inner solar system. The theory came to being because the mass extinctions by orbital bombardment from asteroids seemed to be in a fairly regular time interval, which in space, is usually caused by orbits.

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        • Males sense, I like it. Check out a few other ideas and theories I have (Click link). https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/221168274/0/0/1

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        • Makes sense, since whenever I try to use one in PvP it also ends in tragedy.

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          • Abbadon is also in the bible. Totally unrelated but i wanted to join in on all the fun

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            • The nemesis star is reference to the eventual heat death of the universe. Everything diffuses out and slows as it does so. That's why it is solar and why its perk slows the rate of fire. Can't wait for more from nadir tbh. Just more references to eventualities that sound terrible but are in way, beautiful.

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              • Edited by Eat My Acid: 2/22/2017 4:25:16 PM
                Oh I thought you were talking about nerfs and or glitches because that is also true

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              • Like for later please

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              • I don't see how the thunderlord is tied to tragedy, especially from the text you used. It has a completely different tone to me, but that's the problem with key concepts being restricted to loose interpretation.

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                • Nadir. [ney-der, ney-deer]  noun 1. Astronomy. The point on the celestial sphere directly beneath a given position or observer and diametrically opposite the zenith. ... 3. The lowest point; point of greatest adversity or despair.

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                • You know I'm happy this isn't a click bait title with the OP whining about the The Truth. It's actually related to lore.

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                  • Damn. Never thought of it like that. Is that why each Exotic Machine gun maker seems to have depression? Especially the Super Good Advice maker...depression and P.T.S.D

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                  • The Thunderlord quote is the best saying in Destiny, aside from the Deep Stone Crypt grimoires.

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                  • Nemesis star is based off a scientific theory....

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                  • They are tied to the tragedy of nerfs at the hands of the darkness (Bungie incarnate.)

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                  • Well damn. Is Bungie trying to tell us these machine guns will bring ruin to us?

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                    • bump, this is some illuminati shit right here

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                      • Bump!

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                      • Wall of text, but I split it up into multiple paragraphs. If you have the time, I think it's a good read lol

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