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Edited by Jolly Templar: 2/19/2017 12:54:13 AM
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An actual scientific argument against abortion.

Unlike some pro-lifers (who shall not be mentioned), I am attempting to prove that abortion is murder in a scientific way. So, sexual reproduction is not carried out by normal (diploid) cells, it is carried out by haploid cells. Haploid cells are formed from a process called Meiosis, which is different than the Mitosis that regular cells go through. Long story short, haploid cells have half as many chromosomes as most cells. Once they mingle (such as when sperm gets into an egg), the resulting product is a zygote, which is a separate human being from the mother that has its own set of DNA. Now that we got biology 101 out of the way, here is where the abortion part comes in. Aborting a Fetus is not just 'removing some tissue' from the mother. It is killing a separate human being. Any questions? Oh, and try and keep the comments section mostly civil. It is hard to have a civilized discussion when people are flaming the chat with nonsense.
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  • Well, your argument assumes two falsehoods to be true. A) That a collection of human cells is a human being. B) That a fetus is separate from the mother in any way shape or form. Both are untrue, unless you avoid using logical, operational definitions to define what a living human being is, and instead define this in an arbitrary manner so that you can support your point. Furthermore, your arbitrary definition of what a living human being is will be contradictory if you are to assume A is actually true because the given collection of human cells will eventually become a human, because this would be untrue if B was true. Your argument is not one from science. Your argument has a mostly scientific premise, to which your implications are made specifically from the non-scientific parts of it. This is due to the fact that in practice, to classify something as a living, human being, we use a logical, operational definition which excludes any and all things that we cannot possibly consider a living human. We do this by understanding the differences between humans and other organisms or objects. One of the key differences between humans and other species is our cognitive abilities, which is a great place to start. If a being is incapable of conscious thought, withholding those which have previously been capable, then it is not a human being. The thalamocortical complex forms around 24 weeks into gestation, and renders conscious thought possible. Before then, it isn't a human. All of that being said, I understand that you won't coincide. I don't particularly care if you don't support abortion, I'm just explaining that this isn't a scientific argument you have presented, nor is it a logically sound one.

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