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Edited by erakis1: 2/16/2017 2:38:43 PM
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Trials is killing destiny.

This was supposed to be an epic space fantasy. Now, the performance of every weapon and subclass in the game is constantly held hostage by one game mode that has nothing to do with the core elements of the game's universe. I hated it when it launched, and it becomes clear with every patch that trials is always the priority, leaving all the PvE players out in the cold. Bungie, you are going to have to make some pretty substantial changes to how trials effects destiny if you expect any pre-orders for Destiny 2. Edit: for those who claim that trials is what keeps destiny going, I'm going to have to fundamentally disagree. Point #1: The thing that keeps destiny going is the thing that people hate the most about it: RNG. At its core, Destiny is a loot based shooter with an RPG foundation. The gameplay loop of loot based games centers on gaining power for your character to take on tougher challenges, to get better loot. The loot itself is the reward system that the game is based upon. Point # 2: Bungie employees have specifically stated that Trials is intended for only 1% if the player base. Making changes based on 1% of the player base that undermine the core gameplay loop underlying what destiny is poisons the entire game. The loot reward system loses its power when players are always skeptical of a particular build or item getting nerfed in the future. The anticipation and excitement of getting that loot drop from a raid boss is diminished based on the constant looming threat of nerfs and enthusiasm for the core gameplay loop wanes. Overwatch works as a competitive game because the characters are "built" for you and there is no diversity or loot. Halo worked because a sniper rifle is a sniper rifle and a needler is a needler. Lack of variety is fundamental to creating a solid competitive game. It is also antithetical to loot based games like Diablo, Borderlands, and Nioh. Destiny was sold on its universe building, story, loot, and cooperative elements, yet it consistently undermines those principles to try to create a competitive game that cannot possibly exist in Destiny's universe.
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  • thats true, the only reason they focus so heavily on the trials thing is for the free exposure all the streamers carrying give them for this game while playing it. free ads... and its the slowest crappiest game play and style being promoted as the top tier best lmfao its garbage and thats also affected with the lack of servers for that whole laggy issue that arises all the time.

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  • Hated the house of wolves for 4 reasons. 1: Not enough content to last until ttk. 2: A horrible meta ruled by thorn and felwinters sniper. 3: No raid even though that's what made the game challenging for most. 4: F***ING TRIALS Hated it since the beginning. Pve used to be so much fun now it's watered down because half the resources are based around about 1/8 of the game. Totally agree. This post and the salt free zone are the only posts I have liked since the patch.

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  • So what changes were made that effected PvE so heavily it got you this upset? Specifically. I'm curious cause the recent patch didn't really affect PvE that much unless you are an arc blade hunter main.

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    • Yeah, I've been saying for a long time that trials needs to be removed from the game. It's caused nothing but problems since its creation.

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      • Agreed. Sick of pve suffering as a result of pvp, in particular trials.

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      • Amen to this post, I agree, it's been very clear that it's been focused on trials and the fact that you pointed out that they are technically molding this game around 1% of the playerbase is laughable but true

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      • UPVOTE THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • I seem to remember nerfs happening before trials. weird huh?

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        • Very true. Well put.

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        • See if bungie would just separate Pve from Pvp it wouldnt be a problem.

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        • Trials has already killed Destiny. That and lack of talent at Bumgo. Imagine this, here it comes; the devs listen to the community. Do they play their own game? So unfortunate how this game has turned out.

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        • BUMP this shit all the way up to the devs asses. -blam!- trials and all the problems its brought. People forget this is supposed to be a PVE mainly game. This aint call of duty kiddos.

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        • I came to this game for the PvE. And my options feel like they are getting weaker and weaker. They have felt weak since the April update and dare i say taken king. Heavy weapons are the only thing that retained their power. But i cant exclusively use gjallahorn a sword or sleeper. Specials dont have enough ammo. And primaries have felt weak since they took elements out. And with each pvp patch my abilities get weaker and weaker. I stayed for PvP for a while but after playing Tuesday and getting naded like i was in cod 4 im done. Imma go feel like a badass in borderlands.

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          • From someone who's been flawless many times and has done all the raids multiple times I can say I don't think trials is solely bringing the game down. There are other factors like bungie not keeping pve and pvp separate. Trials however should not be an elitist game mode that only a few thousand people play. Every week since ROI trials participation has steadily dropped. A game mode that has a steady dropoff of players cannot be helping the game. What's the point in a game mode that caters to only the top percentage of players?

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            • What is PvE this far since a new DLC?

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            • Trials kept the game alive, goodbye

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              • im not getting destiny 2 because of trials. how bungo handled this game mode and its application to the overall game was sign that destiny is not a franchise for me. im looking with anticipation to CD project reds new game and the grand theft auto that is in development right now.

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                You only need to visit the Destiny directory on Twitch to notice the spike in the viewer base when trials is active. The RNG elements in Destiny can only excite a player in PVE activities for so many months before it feels exhausting & bland. Trials, though not balanced nor as popular as it use to be, still offers a different experience to us each session.

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              • Dude are you just realizing this

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                • Why do you retards need to keep saying blank is killing Destiny? These posts have been here since day one. Blank keeps changing to a different thing, but YOU are still here. Please stop making these posts about something killing Destiny and just quit playing....and dont forget, we dont need to know when you quit...just do it.

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                  • I agree

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                  • This guy is obviously a year 2 or 3 player as trials attracted a large amount of professional players when House of Wolves came out

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                    • The reason people hate Trials of Osiris: - losing in Iron Banner and the daily crucible: "D@mn, I tried my best. Atleast I have a handful of legendary weapons and some resources to show for my effort." - losing in Trials of Osiris: "D@mn, I tried my best . . . I just wasted an afternoon."

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                    • That 1% gives them 99% of their coverage

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                    • Trials? Sorry my man Bungie that is what is killing Destiny.

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                    • Guys, come join the party, we are playing 6v6 private matches having a blast testing various weapons with the update.. seriously fun. We are rotating viewers in https://www.twitch.tv/joshuastreet

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