[quote]Trials of Osiris Matchmaking needs to be changed. The current system of heavily favoring the number of wins on a card is flawed and is being manipulated. [u]Here are my reasons:[/u] (1) - Elite elimination guardians are farming the first three matches to increase their "ELO" score (2) - Elite elimination guardians are charging money to carry people to the lighthouse. ( I don't believe this was Bungie's intention with Trials of Osiris) (3) - Since money can be made with Flawless Trials passages, many more guardians are seeking extra modifications to their PS4/Xbox systems such as keyboard/mouse mods, hacking mods (aimbots), and specialized controllers. (I'm not too worried about the controllers, but they do add a slight advantage over the normal player) There are always going to be problems with matchmaking in someone's eye no matter what Bungie does, however, I feel that the matchmaking system should be more complex than simply matching good connections with similar wins on a scorecard, but also should not go to a purely skill based matchmaking system. [u]How to Fix Matchmaking/Trials Issues (IMO)[/u] (1) -[b] I believe that cards should not be able to be discarded or there should be a far more severe penalty for discarding them.[/b] 500 glimmer and 9 passage coins for a brand new fully loaded card is chump change to most people playing trials. By not allowing players the ability to discard their cards, it would eliminate the "ELO" farm which makes getting to 5 or 7 wins much more reasonable when you are not playing top 1-5% players the first two matches of Trials (Which happens often). If not being able to discard the Trials Ticket is too radical, the card could cost 5,000 Glimmer and increase the time needed to discard the card. I believe it is around 10s or so...increase it to 30s. If you do decided to discard your card, the next card will also cost 5,000 glimmer, however, if you finished your card the next card can be traded in for a new one with no charge. (2) - Guardians with multiple trips to the lighthouse (3 or more) in that weeks Trials of Osiris should be favored to play other guardians that have also been to the lighthouse that week (at least one trip). Basically, once you have been to the lighthouse with each character and after the bounties have been obtained for each character, the matchmaking system should attempt to find guardians with more skill. I feel that this hybrid of a system is completely fair and equitable. This hybrid matchmaking check wouldn't kick in until you have been flawless three times in a week. This would still keep Trials of Osiris competitive while helping to prevent the previously mentioned problems. Let me know what you think and if you would be in favor of changes like this or if you think Trials Matchmaking should stay the same. Please be constructive. [u]EDIT:[/u] I see a few people that keep responding as if I'm pushing for SBMM or that I'm punishing good players. I am not pushing for SBMM. What I am pushing for only targets people after the 3rd flawless that week. It is not punishing good players by slightly adjusting who they play after they have gotten their rewards for the week. That is my opinion, if you disagree please leave a constructive response as to why it is punishing them or you. As another player stated below... The number of people playing Trials is very low. Any announced change to Trials in any form would bring a lot of people back to Trials which is good for the game. [u]As a question to all that respond... [/u] How many times a week do you go flawless? Does a matchmaking system that slightly changes after three flawless victories really affect you that much? What is your purpose of playing after going to the lighthouse on each character?[/quote] Lol you think aimbots exist. [spoiler]lol[/spoiler]

Trials isn't ment to be easy mode. Its fine as it is.

You clearly don't know how ELO works. If somebody is still ELO farming within the first three games, they are stupid. Most likely they are K/D farming. You get more elo when you are carrying, because it takes your teams elo average down, and winning good avr elo teams with lower elo avr, gives you more elo. If you are let's say 1900 elo average team, and you face 1200 avrg team, you will most likely get 0-2 elo from that match. I feel like trials matchmaking is THE BEST matchmaking in Destiny PvP. SBMM is so stupid. I get punished because i am better than most of the players ( im def not great, but i am top 20-15% atleast) Edit: i go flawless as much as i want to in a weekend.

[quote] (1) - Elite elimination guardians are farming the first three matches to increase their "ELO" score[/quote] Lol, more like scrubs with no thumbs, any decent player would just play cards if they want more elo. I wondered why some high elo players I've encountered and played with in trials lately were utter garbage, I remember thinking "how is their elo so high?" Now I know.

what if you go 6-1 or 7-1? then you need to sweat to 9 wins for nothing or throw 2 games away? sounds idiotic - put in effort and get good like the rest of the people who don't suck

Or you could just return to year one matchmaking Problem solved That said, why do you guys care so much you don't really get anything very good. A lot of the armor comes with low rolls. The blind Perdition is probably the only thing I would consider really cool and you can get one of those at 7 wins Having snapshot on the Flawless version makes no real difference

I am for SBMM in trials. Give everyone a fighting chance no matter their skill level. That way the best actually play against the best, rather than the majority of games stomping on lower skilled players. It would still take an effort to go flawless and would make trials more fun for the community.

* "Elite" trials players who farm don't play the first three games & reset, they play full cards with smurfs * Yes there are paid carries, but if you pay attention Bungie focuses on those who do free carries or sub carries instead Your reasons for change to trials don't seem very well thought out & the first one alone is just wrong in so many ways.

Went flawless once in yr 1 and 0 in ttk and roi but hey i have the exotic emblem and aruu's passage so I'm happy

I remember going into my first match of trials, I gohad matched up with people who needed one win for flawless. Idk how that was possible

Or just give us a freelance option so we can all play.

The problem for me personally is that anyone who's even playing it anymore is top tier. I'm not top tier. Man I tried running a passage this past weekend and it was nothing but gods with 2300 elo, or gods with 2300 elo running some one else's account. I am by no means condemning them for doing that. It's a game. Play it. The problem as I see it is that Bungie caps the rewards from the bounties at 390, and the rng is shit. So there's absolutely zero point in average and casual players even stepping foot in there. The more people who play the game, the more enjoyable it is for everyone. I've been flawless about 54 times so I know what I'm talking about. Remember that first weekend of trials when Roi came out?! Oh man that was so fun. Everyone played it for drops and stuff. Ran all three and got the scarab on the first try. Rip the dream.

The 1 and only issue with Trials is population. I am not going to propose any ideas or changes. To me that is for Bungo to figure out. Regardless of the change if it drives population it should be considered a win for the players and for Bungo to keep interest high with Destiny 2 on the horizon. I personally am not in favor of any changes that take away from the core trials game play but little tweaks to drive Pop would be nice.

Three tiers!! Gold, silver, bronze. Same weapons/ armor but different emblems so the elitists still feel special. Average trials kd of all 3 players. If you dominate at one tier you get bumped to tier above. Or vice versa. I can't even get 5 wins anymore. Smh wtf